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Old 07-10-2015, 06:17 PM   #30
jallanite
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Nerwen, I am indeed hostile to this thread, as defined by Ivriniel, and your post shows, to me, just as much hostility, though I greatly admire the manner in which you post. I wish I had your ability.

No one who has responded agrees with Ivriniel. And all the responses seem to me to be very reasonable. Yes, Frodo, in accepting the quest, could be unconscionably influenced by the Ring. Or he might not.

But where else does Frodo show concurrent motivations, if he does? That ought to be what Ivriniel tries to show, but Ivriniel does not. I had always assumed that Frodo’s almost transparency in Rivendell was a side-effect of the Morgul-knife fragment that Frodo had carried in his body so long, but Ivriniel imagines instead that it is a result of Elrond’s surgery, but does not explain what motivation Ivriniel attributes to Elrond if it was.

Is Ivriniel merely a poor arguer, or is Ivriniel a troll? It doesn’t matter to me as I am going to cease to feed Ivriniel.
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