**Ruin of Doriath - Pre-Revision speculation/proposal thread**

[Maédhros]

Originally posted by Aiwendil

I would say that the words of Q30 should be taken as authoritative - "Thingol... scanted his promised reward for their labour; and bitter words grew between them, and there was battle in Thingol's halls". If no better can be done, we can simply use the words of the Quenta.

I know that that is stated in the Quenta but, does a proud elf, like Thingol would go back on his word?
Would that fit with a later Silmarillion?

Why not simply say that, hearing of the Dwarf army, he decides to go to war and he rides forth beyond the borders?

What if they were in the hunt and they heard of the dwarf army and decided to go to war?