The Statures of Elves and Men: Changes - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

jallanite · 07-26-2001, 04:30 PM

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Re: The Statures of Elves and Men: Changes

Beautiful work!

Of course part of the problem is that Tolkien is usually talking averages. Presumably there were always some Elves shorter than some Men, and some Men shorter than some Elves, and so forth.

And really what can you make of the "Quendi and Eldar" statement on the Sindar:<blockquote>Quote:<hr> In general the Sindar appear to have very closely resembled the Exiles, being dark-haired, strong and tall, but lithe.<hr></blockquote>"Strong and tall" compared to whom? The Nandor and the Avari. They were of the same origin and kin as the Noldor and Sindar. Perhaps Elves tended to dwindle or grow physically in their long years of life reflecting to some degree the power of their spirits, and so Noldor and Sindar had physically outgrown the other Elves. If so, JRRT does not mention such a thing.

Perhaps they are "strong and tall" compared to Men? Probably not particularly. Taller on the averge than the Bëorians and House of Haleth perhaps, and more equal to the Hadorians? Maybe that is all that is meant?

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000212>jallanit e</A> at: 7/26/01 6:31:02 pm

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07-26-2001, 04:30 PM	#2
jallanite Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 479	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Moderator Posts: 53</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: The Statures of Elves and Men: Changes Beautiful work! Of course part of the problem is that Tolkien is usually talking averages. Presumably there were always some Elves shorter than some Men, and some Men shorter than some Elves, and so forth. And really what can you make of the "Quendi and Eldar" statement on the Sindar:<blockquote>*Quote:<hr> In general the Sindar appear to have very closely resembled the Exiles, being dark-haired, strong and tall, but lithe.<hr></blockquote>"Strong and tall" compared to whom? The Nandor and the Avari. They were of the same origin and kin as the Noldor and Sindar. Perhaps Elves tended to dwindle or grow physically in their long years of life reflecting to some degree the power of their spirits, and so Noldor and Sindar had physically outgrown the other Elves. If so, JRRT does not mention such a thing. Perhaps they are "strong and tall" compared to Men? Probably not particularly. Taller on the averge than the Bëorians and House of Haleth perhaps, and more equal to the Hadorians? Maybe that is all that is meant? </p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000212>jallanit e</A> at: 7/26/01 6:31:02 pm*