New Topic= Ecthelion: Man, or Elf? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

galpsi · 07-21-2000, 11:09 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: New Topic= Secret fire of Anor

At various points in LotR and the Silma, JRRT uses the epithets "secret fire," "flame of Anor," "flame imperishable," "heart of the world," etc., all as equivalent. I suppose that some of these epithets are better understood metaphorically or as mystical correspondences rather than as literal ones, for Burrahobbit is certainly right that Anor is literally the sun and cannot be at the center of the world. I think of it like the mystery of the Eucharist. Is the body of Christ literally in every sacramental wafer? Yes, but (only!) miraculously. But some of you may prefer the Zwinglian idea that the name is repeated memorially.

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07-21-2000, 11:09 PM	#9
galpsi The Unquiet Dead Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 971	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dûm Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: New Topic= Secret fire of Anor At various points in LotR and the Silma, JRRT uses the epithets "secret fire," "flame of Anor," "flame imperishable," "heart of the world," etc., all as equivalent. I suppose that some of these epithets are better understood metaphorically or as mystical correspondences rather than as literal ones, for Burrahobbit is certainly right that Anor is literally the sun and cannot be at the center of the world. I think of it like the mystery of the Eucharist. Is the body of Christ literally in every sacramental wafer? Yes, but (only!) miraculously. But some of you may prefer the Zwinglian idea that the name is repeated memorially. </p>