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Old 05-18-2001, 02:26 AM   #6
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Re: Palantiri History Problems

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> These stones were gifts of the Eldar to Amandil, father of Elendil, for the comfort of the Faithful of Númenor in their dark days, when the Elves might come no longer to that land under the shadow of Sauron.<hr></blockquote>

This passage appears to be pretty ambiguous. I suppose it could indicate that the stones were given to Amandil by the Eldar of Middle Earth (most probably Gil-galad) because the Eldar of Eressea could no longer visit Numenor. But this passage contradicts information given in other places as well. It wasn't the 'shadow of Sauron' that caused the Elder to cease their jouneys to Numenor. They stopped because of the actions of Ar-Gimilzor, and they didn't even return under the reign of Tar-Palantir.

Things would be so much easier if Amandil wasn't given the stones.

But assuming he was, and assuming he was given them by the Eldar of Middle Earth, there's the problem of how the stones actually got to Middle Earth in the first place. The only solution I can think of to this problem, unlikely as it may seem, is that the stones were brought to Middle Earth by the host of the Valar and given to the remaining Eldar before they left.

But I agree, there are some serious problems concerning this matter.


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