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Old 04-23-2003, 05:49 PM   #29
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Very nicely put, Yavanna Kementari.

Let's just take the saints. They also had first hand experience of God. They tried to convey this experience, but many did not believe them.

Augustine said something like: "Faith is to believe what you do not see, and thereby seeing what you believe." Or something like it.

I'll bet that there were people in Middle-earth who did not believe in Eru or, for that matter, the Valar. Insanity was not unknown there, so people who testify to seeing the Valar (who in turn have firsthand experience of Eru) could be labeled as insane.

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