Magic vs. Power

[burrahobbit]

I consider Magic to be the use of spells, incantations, or other occultic means for to make something happen, physical or not.

That is a tautology and an equivocation.

There is no magic in Tolkien's work because magic is the occult and the occult is not in Tolkien's work.

You're using the word in a way that Tolkien never did.

Tolkien's work says that there is magic in Tolkien's work, Tolkien's work says that there are spells in Tolkien's work. That's good enough for me.