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Ghastly Neekerbreeker
Join Date: Dec 2001
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"...I regard Arwen and Aragorn as the most important of the Appendices; it is part of the essential story, and is only placed so, because it could not be worked into the main narrative without destroying its structure: which is planned to be 'hobbito-centric', that is, primarily a study of the ennoblement (or sanctification) of the humble." J.R.R. Tolkien in a letter to Michael Straight, New Republic editor - January 1956 Sharku - I’m torn, since you have posted this incredibly detailed reponse in one thread, but asked that the discussion be continued in another. So here I am. I included the above quote from Tolkien’s letters because the last sentence seems to sum up the major theme of the book: “…a study of the ennoblement (or sanctification) of the humble.” If I may address some of your own comments,found here: here Quote:
As I have stated before: Frodo did not just drop out of the sky. In order for Frodo to fulfill the destiny that Eru has chosen for him, his very existence would have to be so unobtrusive and unimportant that his very race was regarded with little but contempt, not only by Sauron, but the rest of the world in general. Now that takes some “planning“. Quote:
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In Unfinished Tales, Gandalf is regarded as being on of the “lesser” Istari, weaker, smaller, older, and unassuming. He even questions whether he is up to the task that the Valar have sent him on. (Only Círdan recognizes that there may be more to Gandalf than meets the eye.) Doesn’t Gandalf’s story, in a way, reflect the very story of the Halfling race? And Gandalf does not strengthen his case by taking up with the Halflings, the only one of The Wise to do so. Saruman holds him in contempt for it. Even Radagast sneers at him for it! And yet Gandalf feels called to continue this association down through the centuries. To me, that suggest that Hobbits were very much a part of Gandalf’s “mission”, though even he doesn’t seem to understand why until the Ring shows up. Quote:
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I think our concepts of what it means for a god to interfene differs greatly, You seem to regard intervention as some “Deus ex Machina” moment. I myself regard it more in light of the old saying that the fluttering of a butterfly’s wings in South America can cause a hurricane in New England. Both suggest intervention by a higher power, but my approach is a tad more “holistic“. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Who is to say that if it was Eru’s intention that a Hobbit be the cause of the final overthrow of Sauron, that he may not have been planning for this moment clear back to the very beginnings?. Tolkien stresses that Eru’s people, the Valar, do not have a complete knowledge of the Music of Eru. Doesn’t that suggest to you that the Halfling folk may have been covered in there someplace, (for at least a couple of bars, anyway.) My speculation that Hobbits may have come into being by Design is based on the fact that Tolkien stresses so much through the book that Hobbits are forgotten and unknown, a perfect “secret weapon. As Child wrote to me: “Why would he (Tolkien) do this unless it had some significance?” Then, there is the “fact” that, out of all the people of Middle-Earth who do tend to think Hobbits have some worth, two of them turn out to be the most powerful figures in that world, and the most closely connected with The One. Gandalf and Tom Bombadil. Gandalf even suggest that he “knows more about their origins than Hobbits do themselves.“ Why, out of all the Istari, would Gandalf show such an interest in such a lowly people for so many centuries, even risking scorn and rididule for this interest? I feel that there is more to it than that Gandalf is a “nice old man“. Yes, speculation is fun. My speculation that Tolkien’s deity may have “chosen” a Hobbit to overthrow the Dark Lord is, and therefore arranged for Hobbits themselves to appear in Middle-Earth is only that - speculation. But I feel it is based on many subtle suggestions that Tolkien made in his master work. Granted, I may be coloring it with my own views and belief systems, but isn’t that what you, Burrahobbit, and Mhoram are doing as well? You may not see it, but others - even others who have studied the text as thoroughly as yourself - do. [ November 10, 2002: Message edited by: Birdland ] |
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