The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Books
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 09-30-2003, 11:36 PM   #19
Man of the Old Hope
Pile O'Bones
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Beleriand
Posts: 21
Man of the Old Hope has just left Hobbiton.
Sting

Quote:
Again, to correct popular belief, it is said nowhere that Satan was an angel, least of all most powerful, in the Bible, New Testament and Old.
This is quite true, though the Pauline epistles remark that Satan can appear as "an angel of light" (2 Corinthians) and as the "prince of the powers of the air" (understood both by the Fathers and by the medieval theologians to be fallen angelic powers).

Late Jewish traditions (early AD) state that Satan had been an angel of high rank, and apply a passage in Isaiah that refers to the fall of "Lucifer", the "shining one", to the fall of Satan.

Gregory the Great (c. 540-604) in his Moralia, after listing nine hierarchic orders, says this of Satan, "he wore all of them [all the angels] as a garment, transcending them all in glory and knowledge." Thomas Aquinas (1274-1323), greatest of the Doctors (Teachers) of the Church, designated Satan as "the first angel who sinned" and argued that, as to his original order, Satan was not of the seraphim but of the cherubim, because "the cherubim is [sic] derived from knowledge, which is compatible with mortal sin" (Summa Theologica 1, 7th article). According to Jerome, Gregory of Nyssa, Origen, Ambrosiaster, and others, Satan will be reinstated in his "pristine splendor and original rank."

So, while John Milton gives us a splendidly compelling poetic portrait of Satan as a fallen angel, the idea did not originate with him, and had been an accepted notion in Christian and Jewish theology for over a millenium and a half.
__________________
'They say,' answered Andreth: 'they say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end.'
Man of the Old Hope is offline   Reply With Quote
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:13 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.