The Examples of Dumbing - Down - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

***Mister Underhill*** · 08-28-2003, 10:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>One can only wonder how much lower he can sink in RotK.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes! I've complained of this elsewhere. Elijah has nowhere left to go for RotK. More wooziness and eye-rolling at the foot of Mt. Doom? Blah. <P>I don't think you necessarily need that much more time for nuance and subtlety. <I>The Empire Strikes Back</I> manages to give the impression of depth and complexity in the Luke-Yoda-Vader triangle of relationships and in Luke's struggle with the temptations of the Dark Side without taking up undue screentime. It's performance, writing, directing choices...<P>Lirioden, we can't seem to get on the same page. I myself have no problem with the "elf eyes" line. The books have numerous opportunities to establish Legolas's extra-keen sight without having to mention it in dialogue. Viggo is an actor who performs with such conviction that I'd be hard-pressed to find camp in any of his scenes. He can take something that should be campy and make it work. If you want camp (or cheese), head to Isengard. Whoo. I mean, I like Christopher Lee as much as the next guy, but wow.

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08-28-2003, 10:20 PM	#11
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>One can only wonder how much lower he can sink in RotK.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes! I've complained of this elsewhere. Elijah has nowhere left to go for RotK. More wooziness and eye-rolling at the foot of Mt. Doom? Blah. <P>I don't think you necessarily need that much more time for nuance and subtlety. <I>The Empire Strikes Back</I> manages to give the impression of depth and complexity in the Luke-Yoda-Vader triangle of relationships and in Luke's struggle with the temptations of the Dark Side without taking up undue screentime. It's performance, writing, directing choices...<P>Lirioden, we can't seem to get on the same page. I myself have no problem with the "elf eyes" line. The books have numerous opportunities to establish Legolas's extra-keen sight without having to mention it in dialogue. Viggo is an actor who performs with such conviction that I'd be hard-pressed to find camp in any of his scenes. He can take something that should be campy and make it work. If you want camp (or cheese), head to Isengard. Whoo. I mean, I like Christopher Lee as much as the next guy, but wow.