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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Some fragmented quotes from the Ainulindale :
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The Valar are discarnate until they take shape to themselves. The text indicates the shape and hue that each took on was based on what they already were as spirit/energy/divinity; they didn't choose the shape and hue to show what they were. As the text indicates, we (humans) are not male and female because of what we wear; but, we dress as male or female because of what we already are. (Let's not even get into the cross-dressing issue! ![]() Melkor was a dark and terrible shape because of who he was, and who he was, was also partially determined by what he did. The reason that Gandalf came back to his bodily form and was Gandalf the White was because of who he (his spirit/energy/divinity) was at that time. He received a more exalted position from what he had before because of what he did in carrying out the will of Iluvatar. So, the nakedness that Gandalf speaks of could very well be the state of his discarnate self in returning to Arda and to his naked (in the context of clothing) physical body. The receiving of white robes was a honor given to Gandalf prior to returning and was reflected in the body to which he returned.
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