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Old 04-24-2004, 03:39 PM   #1
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I think he may have been some kind of spirit being sent to ME to help govern the Old forest. That's just an idea.Hope I helped!
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Old 04-24-2004, 07:36 PM   #2
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I personally don't think he's a maia, since tolkien throughly covered that topic. My best guess is that he is either a forest spirit watching over the world, or a man who has been taught magic by the Istari! But that's just me...
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Old 04-24-2004, 10:36 PM   #3
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Since maia are influenced by the ring, i would say that good ol' tom is more pwoerful then a maiar, and only valar are! but we know it probaly not valar...so thats leads to Eru himself!
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Old 04-25-2004, 01:12 AM   #4
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There's been speculation about whether Tom Bombadil is an embodiment of Eru himself, but JRRT has refuted this several times in his letters. He's said that there is no form or embodiment for Eru- he just is. I personally think Bombadil is a spirit, rather than a Maia or Vala.
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Old 04-25-2004, 06:39 AM   #5
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My best guess is that he is either a forest spirit watching over the world, or a man who has been taught magic by the Istari! But that's just me...
As I remember, Tom has been walking ME long before the Istari came, before the birth of men and before the sun and moon... I think he's something else, something created from nature itself. I agree with Gil-Galad that he must be more powerful than a maia, maybe even than valar.

Maybe he's equal to Eru or maybe Eru created him as he created valar and maiar... I don't know, but I don't think he's created by valar or maiar and neither do I think he originally was a human or elf.
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Old 04-25-2004, 08:29 AM   #6
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i believe that bombadil is either a maia or a spirit since he says that he's the oldest
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Another theroy, though wrong, is that before Eru Created the Ainur and Valar, he made Bombadil, but screwed up so he ditched him in a forest and started making Valar. It's wrong, but it could be right...but most likely wrong
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Old 04-25-2004, 10:41 AM   #8
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As I remember, Tom has been walking ME long before the Istari came, before the birth of men and before the sun and moon... I think he's something else, something created from nature itself. I agree with Gil-Galad that he must be more powerful than a maia, maybe even than valar.
No, Tom was not more powerfull than a Valar, I don't know for sure if he is stronger than a Maiar either. For Gandalf himself was bound by law and could not use his full strength. In the book, during the counsil of Elrond, they think of giving the ring to Bombadil. Gandalf rejects this for not even Bombadil could withhold the storm that Sauron would unleash on him. So even though he is not affected by the ring, does not mean he is stronger than a Maia or Valar. For a Valar could easely defeat Sauron, even with his ring.

What Tom is beats me, perhaps just like the ents, something completely different. Not listed, but known all over. But if you consider that gandalf foresees, that he will be the last to fall, like he was the first, he must have great power. Like tom says himself, he is the master. And that is all. He is just a wonderfull creature (so to speak) that has nothing to do with no one. Another question, his wife. How great was the power she posessed?

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Old 04-25-2004, 01:30 PM   #9
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What Tom is beats me, perhaps just like the ents, something completely different. Not listed, but known all over.
Well, maybe but the ents were created by valar (on Yavannas request if remember correctly) and Tom was "the first and last" (right?). I've always presumed that he existed before ME was created...
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