Yet another quote that wasn't - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

HerenIstarion · 05-04-2004, 12:22 AM

Well, not that easy, but a bit of scanning through Tale of Years did the trick

Next one up:

Quote:

Bid him hasten, so he may come hither in a short while.

radagastly · 05-05-2004, 09:57 AM

I think you're trying to trick us. Could this be from the Council of Elrond? Gandalf quoting Radagast quoting Saruman:

" 'Saruman the White,' answered Radagast. 'And he told me to say that if you feel the need, he will help; but you must seek his aid at once, or it will be too late.' "
"--Bid him hasten, so he may come hither in a short while."

HerenIstarion · 05-05-2004, 10:26 PM

Of course I'm trying to trick you. If it were easy to guess out the riddle, it would be no fun!

Not Radagas, and not Saruma. Somewhat earlier and to the east (again

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radagastly · 05-12-2004, 10:55 AM

Well, it's been several days, and no one else has ventured a guess, so I think by now it's fair for me to have another try.

Could this be Barliman Butterbur quoting Gandalf to Frodo as he presents him with Gandalf's letter in Bree?

'"Barley," he says, "I'm off in the morning. Will you do something for me?" "You've only to name it," I said. "I'm in a hurry," said he, "and I've no time myself, but I want a message took to the Shire. Have you anyone you can send, and trust to go?" "I can find someone," I said, "tomorrow, maybe, or the day after." "Make it tomorrow," he says, "Bid him hasten that he may come hither in a short while."'

That's a bit of a stretch, since Gandalf doesn't talk about Frodo coming until the next paragraph, but it's all I can think of.

HerenIstarion · 05-13-2004, 12:00 AM

Nope, For Barliman supposedly was not in the know what kind of message was contained in Gandalf's letter (unless under 'him' you mean the messanger?)

Well, another hint - the non-existent quote was not uttered by man (nor woman at that - i.e. not human)

And again, earlier and to the east

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-13-2004, 12:14 PM

H-I, I'm beginning to see a pattern in your use of "earlier and to the east".

If I am right, I believe that the non-quote wasn't said by Thorin to the raven Roac:

"But go specially to my cousin Dain in the Iron Hills, for he has many people well-armed, and dwells nearest to this place. Bid him hasten! Bid him hasten that he may come hither in a short while.

HerenIstarion · 05-13-2004, 11:25 PM

Yes, SpM, Thorin wanted Dain on the spot as soon as possible. Proceed

05-05-2004, 10:26 PM	#3
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Of course I'm trying to trick you. If it were easy to guess out the riddle, it would be no fun! Not Radagas, and not Saruma. Somewhat earlier and to the east (again ) __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

05-13-2004, 12:00 AM	#5
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Nope, For Barliman supposedly was not in the know what kind of message was contained in Gandalf's letter (unless under 'him' you mean the messanger?) Well, another hint - the non-existent quote was not uttered by man (nor woman at that - i.e. not human) And again, earlier and to the east __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

05-13-2004, 12:14 PM	#6
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	H-I, I'm beginning to see a pattern in your use of "earlier and to the east". If I am right, I believe that the non-quote wasn't said by Thorin to the raven Roac: "But go specially to my cousin Dain in the Iron Hills, for he has many people well-armed, and dwells nearest to this place. Bid him hasten! Bid him hasten that he may come hither in a short while. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-13-2004, 11:25 PM	#7
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Yes, SpM, Thorin wanted Dain on the spot as soon as possible. Proceed __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

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05-05-2004, 09:57 AM	#2
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	I think you're trying to trick us. Could this be from the Council of Elrond? Gandalf quoting Radagast quoting Saruman: " 'Saruman the White,' answered Radagast. 'And he told me to say that if you feel the need, he will help; but you must seek his aid at once, or it will be too late.' " "--Bid him hasten, so he may come hither in a short while."

05-12-2004, 10:55 AM	#4
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	Well, it's been several days, and no one else has ventured a guess, so I think by now it's fair for me to have another try. Could this be Barliman Butterbur quoting Gandalf to Frodo as he presents him with Gandalf's letter in Bree? '"Barley," he says, "I'm off in the morning. Will you do something for me?" "You've only to name it," I said. "I'm in a hurry," said he, "and I've no time myself, but I want a message took to the Shire. Have you anyone you can send, and trust to go?" "I can find someone," I said, "tomorrow, maybe, or the day after." "Make it tomorrow," he says, "Bid him hasten that he may come hither in a short while."' That's a bit of a stretch, since Gandalf doesn't talk about Frodo coming until the next paragraph, but it's all I can think of.