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Old 05-06-2004, 06:14 AM   #1
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1420!

I'm sure I read it in Letters or HoMe...most of which I don't own.

In case this turns into a big deal, I'm perfectly ready to admit I amy be imagining things. So I'll say: "I'm really, really sure he used it once. But this is all relying on my memory." But I definately came across it somewhere, and it stuckin my mind precisely because it was an unusual term.

Better?

Plus it would be a bit wierd for PJ to invent somehting like that. Mind you, having said that...*Two Towers*
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Old 05-06-2004, 02:21 PM   #2
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Plus it would be a bit wierd for PJ to invent somehting like that.
Yeah, next thing you know he'd have Elrond showing up at Dunharrow or Gimli exclaiming, "Nobody tosses a Dwarf!"

Now back to the original topic of the thread: I think it can be inferred that there were female orcs simply because A) They somehow inexplicably multiplied! & B) It can be assumed that Melkor corrupted both male and female Elves (or Men?), & I doubt even he had the power to change the sexes of his corruptions &/or make impotence a hereditary trait.

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Old 05-06-2004, 03:19 PM   #3
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I don't think orcs really had gender. They just sort of... multiplied. Kind of like insects, if you know what I mean.
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Old 05-06-2004, 03:39 PM   #4
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Insects have genders.

Here's an interesting topic: If orcs do reproduce sexually, what is the cause for the growth of their population? Can corrupted Elves/Men really be so utterly enslaved as to begin ravenously reproducing at any sign of evil gathering power?
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Old 05-06-2004, 04:01 PM   #5
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Fine, if people simply don't believe Tolkien's words in the Silmabout Orksbreeding like the Children of Eru, perhaps the fact that they had to cross-breed with Men, and that their's onlyone way to do that!, to produce Uruk-hai!

I think it's more a case of them breeding when they're free from Ork-killing enemies. For instance, the population in the Misties increases by a lot between Bilbo's adventure and the War of the Ring, but this is because almost all had been wiped out first in the War against Dwarves, and then (more recently, so more relevantly) in the Battle of Five Armies. So basically the population was getting back to I guess it's natural peak.
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Old 05-06-2004, 06:10 PM   #6
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Here's an interesting topic: If orcs do reproduce sexually, what is the cause for the growth of their population? Can corrupted Elves/Men really be so utterly enslaved as to begin ravenously reproducing at any sign of evil gathering power?
And another question:

Why would Sauron/Saruman bother with sexual reproduction if they could just breed them (presuming that they could)? Why wait for them to grow up? Or are we operating under the assumption that Orcs & Uruks are not born as babies?
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Old 05-06-2004, 06:17 PM   #7
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Why would they not be born as babies? What possible evidence can anyone give to suggest they're spawned, like the potato-fields of Jackson's Uruk-hai?
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