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Kitanna · 06-18-2004, 05:05 PM

I watched TTT the other day and when Aragorn says "He's not alone, Sam went with him." At first Gandalf goes "He did?" Then he nods and has this look on his face like, "oh I should have known better." And then Gandalf nods and goes "He did."

The Only Real Estel · 06-18-2004, 06:05 PM

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I watched TTT the other day and when Aragorn says "He's not alone, Sam went with him." At first Gandalf goes "He did?" Then he nods and has this look on his face like, "oh I should have known better." And then Gandalf nods and goes "He did."

Are you sure about that? I thought it went like this:

Aragorn-"He's not alone, Sam went with him."

Gandalf-"Did he? Did he indeed..."

Followed by something like 'very good'

elfwishes999 · 06-21-2004, 06:37 PM

Gandalf wasn't surprised because he was the one who sent Sam on the whole journey with Frodo in the first place! he made sam promise not to leave frodo, so why in the heck would he be surprised if he knew sam had to have been with frodo...some things in movies are just so confusing

wilwarin538 · 06-28-2004, 04:53 PM

maybe he thought that by this time Sam missed his garden and Rosie and the gaffer so much that he chickened out?? I dont know but ya its very confusing.

Olorin_TLA · 06-29-2004, 10:23 AM

Well Gandalf must have notcied the lack of Boromir, and he hadn't spoken to Merry or Pippin, so he had many reasosn to think that (a) Boromir and Sam went a different route, (b) 1 or more of those 2 are dead, or (c) Boromir's gone, and Sam's been captured (possibly taken by Mordor Orks when they argued with Sartuman's ones), etc.

The Only Real Estel · 07-01-2004, 03:20 PM

Olorin_TLA: Is it likely he wouldn't immediantly find out where the others are? Especially since they had such a long ride ahead of them, plenty of time to talk.

Kath · 07-02-2004, 01:11 PM

Maybe in his post-deth state he forgot about Sam simply because he hadn't been mentioned. I mean he'd seen Merry and Pippin with Treebeard, and he'd seen Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli by this point and Frodo was the most important member of the Fellowship and it's a little unlikely that Gandalf would forget about the Ring. Sam at the time when Gandlaf left was pretty inconsequential so he could have been surprised at the memory of Sam.

06-18-2004, 05:05 PM	#1
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	I watched TTT the other day and when Aragorn says "He's not alone, Sam went with him." At first Gandalf goes "He did?" Then he nods and has this look on his face like, "oh I should have known better." And then Gandalf nods and goes "He did." __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

06-28-2004, 04:53 PM	#4
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	maybe he thought that by this time Sam missed his garden and Rosie and the gaffer so much that he chickened out?? I dont know but ya its very confusing. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

06-29-2004, 10:23 AM	#5
Olorin_TLA Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gardens of Lórien, Valinor. Posts: 420	Well Gandalf must have notcied the lack of Boromir, and he hadn't spoken to Merry or Pippin, so he had many reasosn to think that (a) Boromir and Sam went a different route, (b) 1 or more of those 2 are dead, or (c) Boromir's gone, and Sam's been captured (possibly taken by Mordor Orks when they argued with Sartuman's ones), etc. __________________ "For I am Olórin! And Olórin means me!" ELENDIL! - Join "Forth Tolkiengas!"

07-02-2004, 01:11 PM	#7
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Maybe in his post-deth state he forgot about Sam simply because he hadn't been mentioned. I mean he'd seen Merry and Pippin with Treebeard, and he'd seen Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli by this point and Frodo was the most important member of the Fellowship and it's a little unlikely that Gandalf would forget about the Ring. Sam at the time when Gandlaf left was pretty inconsequential so he could have been surprised at the memory of Sam. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

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06-21-2004, 06:37 PM	#3
elfwishes999 Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37	Gandalf wasn't surprised because he was the one who sent Sam on the whole journey with Frodo in the first place! he made sam promise not to leave frodo, so why in the heck would he be surprised if he knew sam had to have been with frodo...some things in movies are just so confusing

07-01-2004, 03:20 PM	#6
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	Olorin_TLA: Is it likely he wouldn't immediantly find out where the others are? Especially since they had such a long ride ahead of them, plenty of time to talk.