Friends of Nimrodel: Tapestry of Dreams - Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 06-25-2004, 11:15 AM

The Rohan group is on Dec 20. The fiddle lesson was at lunchbreak, and they are riding south along the river again. You can put the time anywhere from midafternoon on. Feel free to take the group to the 21st!

Elora · 06-25-2004, 04:59 PM

Elora tries to slip quietly through the door, a difficult task when one is festooned in a coined hip scarf...

Sorry, I'm still around. I'm a little busy right now. Have a paid gig (a wedding, in fact) tonight and I'm working hard at perfecting routines. It's the small things that make a difference, and if I know they're done right I'll be all the happier and so will the reception guests.

I'll come back to you on dates, paths, the specifics you've requested once I've finished earning my keep.

mark12_30 · 06-27-2004, 07:18 AM

lmp,

I'm thinking that Raefindan will discern that the nightmares have doubled in intensity (for both himself and Mellonin) since their encounter with the swamp-elf. Sound good?

Also, I'm thinking that Amroth, Erebemlin, and Taitheneb could "intercept" (BFLW) the swamp-elf's thoughts as he sends nightmares towards Raefindan. (Do they just spill over into Mellonin's dreams? Or is he also expanding his curse on Nimrodel, and *that* is spilling into Mellonin's dreams? Hmmm.)

Anyway one option is that Ædegard's team could come thundering south to find and confront the swamp-elf. They'd stumble across Ravion's Ramblers -- either before or after. I like before; I think it would be great to have Mellonin witness the confrontation between Mellondu-Amroth and Broken-faith-Swamp-Elf.

Do they kill Swamp-elf or leave him or take him captive? oooo.... I like the captivity thought. He'd be wreaking havoc the whole time. Maybe they use him to find Nimrodel-- or they try to ; he bitterly leads them astray? Hmmm.... just how evil IS this guy???

mark12_30 · 06-27-2004, 12:51 PM

Nuru, great choice of songs! It always strikes me that it's a reflection of the Wedding Supper of the Lamb. Stunning song.

Elora · 06-27-2004, 06:35 PM

Alrighty then.... (sorry folks - Ace Ventura, Pet Detective was the re-run Sunday Night movie at my place last night

)

The date of Uien and Falowik's arrival is the day after Amroth's party departs Lorien. Now, the time line document loaded funny on my screen, but if I have done it right, that would place their arrival on the 18th December.

As for the path, they came from Eryn Lasgalen by way of the Anduin. For that reason, I thought it likely that Uien's dreams would begin as she neared the immediate vicinity of the Nimrodel and Celebrant.

As for her hair colour, it's a characteristic of appearance she in fact derived from an earlier incarnation who was indeed descended from Finarfin. I changed her name and history in another RP for expediency at the time, but retained the golden hair so she would be a little recognisable still.

I'm still a little hazy on her parent's lineage.... So far, I have modelled them on Celeborn and Galadriel... But with her father being Noldorin and of Galadriel's (and hence Finafin by default's) following and her mother Sindarin. They followed Galadriel and Celeborn after following Amroth, from Doriath at the end of the First Age, through to Lorien in the Second Age, abiding there in the Third Age. Her father and eldest brother dying in the battles of Lorien and then Mirkwood (Taur e-Ndaeldelos) , and remaining elder brother and her mother departing for Eldamar at the conclusion of the Third Age.

Hope that clears a few things up.

littlemanpoet · 06-27-2004, 06:44 PM

I hadn't considered that the swamp-elf's nightmare-giving could continue after Raefindan leaves, but I think it's a fantastic idea! So yes, Raefindan can figure this out, but not until after Mellonin is willing to tell him her dream.

Let the Elves intercept. Another great idea. As for the type of "spill-over", heck, this is story, so go for the more dramatic, as long as it fits canon. To me, both do.

Let Ædegard and company stumble on the Elf before, for the same reason - more fodder for a good read!

Take the swamp-elf captive. We need a villain. The more troubled and contorted, the better (think of Sméagol). He needs to do as much damage as he can, but not just out of some kind of two-dimensional "I am evil so I do these things" motivation. You've already established (at least, to us) his personal torture at having been rejected by Nimrodel. Deepen the character. If you want help, I'd be glad to. Maybe we can all lend ideas toward this.

Orual · 06-27-2004, 10:00 PM

Quick question about dates--for the Gondor group, is it now the 22nd, or the 23rd? Because as I remember, I'm supposed to bring Erundil in on the 23rd.

mark12_30 · 06-28-2004, 07:50 AM

I am editing my last post to bring the Rohan group forward another day. So Aedegard's group (as of the edit) is on Dec. 21. Somebody can bring them downriver another 50 miles to another campsite and we'll make it Dec 22, and hten they'll be even! Wohoo!

Ravion's group is on Dec 22. Erundil comes tomorrow.

I'll update the timeline too.

(edit: both done)

06-25-2004, 11:15 AM	#1
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	The Rohan group is on Dec 20. The fiddle lesson was at lunchbreak, and they are riding south along the river again. You can put the time anywhere from midafternoon on. Feel free to take the group to the 21st! __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

06-25-2004, 04:59 PM	#2
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Elora tries to slip quietly through the door, a difficult task when one is festooned in a coined hip scarf... Sorry, I'm still around. I'm a little busy right now. Have a paid gig (a wedding, in fact) tonight and I'm working hard at perfecting routines. It's the small things that make a difference, and if I know they're done right I'll be all the happier and so will the reception guests. I'll come back to you on dates, paths, the specifics you've requested once I've finished earning my keep. __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

06-27-2004, 07:18 AM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Nightmares lmp, I'm thinking that Raefindan will discern that the nightmares have doubled in intensity (for both himself and Mellonin) since their encounter with the swamp-elf. Sound good? Also, I'm thinking that Amroth, Erebemlin, and Taitheneb could "intercept" (BFLW) the swamp-elf's thoughts as he sends nightmares towards Raefindan. (Do they just spill over into Mellonin's dreams? Or is he also expanding his curse on Nimrodel, and that is spilling into Mellonin's dreams? Hmmm.) Anyway one option is that Ædegard's team could come thundering south to find and confront the swamp-elf. They'd stumble across Ravion's Ramblers -- either before or after. I like before; I think it would be great to have Mellonin witness the confrontation between Mellondu-Amroth and Broken-faith-Swamp-Elf. Do they kill Swamp-elf or leave him or take him captive? oooo.... I like the captivity thought. He'd be wreaking havoc the whole time. Maybe they use him to find Nimrodel-- or they try to ; he bitterly leads them astray? Hmmm.... just how evil IS this guy??? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

06-27-2004, 12:51 PM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Nuru, great choice of songs! It always strikes me that it's a reflection of the Wedding Supper of the Lamb. Stunning song. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

06-27-2004, 06:35 PM	#5
Elora Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kalrienmar Posts: 402	Details Alrighty then.... (sorry folks - Ace Ventura, Pet Detective was the re-run Sunday Night movie at my place last night ) The date of Uien and Falowik's arrival is the day after Amroth's party departs Lorien. Now, the time line document loaded funny on my screen, but if I have done it right, that would place their arrival on the 18th December. As for the path, they came from Eryn Lasgalen by way of the Anduin. For that reason, I thought it likely that Uien's dreams would begin as she neared the immediate vicinity of the Nimrodel and Celebrant. As for her hair colour, it's a characteristic of appearance she in fact derived from an earlier incarnation who was indeed descended from Finarfin. I changed her name and history in another RP for expediency at the time, but retained the golden hair so she would be a little recognisable still. I'm still a little hazy on her parent's lineage.... So far, I have modelled them on Celeborn and Galadriel... But with her father being Noldorin and of Galadriel's (and hence Finafin by default's) following and her mother Sindarin. They followed Galadriel and Celeborn after following Amroth, from Doriath at the end of the First Age, through to Lorien in the Second Age, abiding there in the Third Age. Her father and eldest brother dying in the battles of Lorien and then Mirkwood (Taur e-Ndaeldelos) , and remaining elder brother and her mother departing for Eldamar at the conclusion of the Third Age. Hope that clears a few things up. __________________ Characters: Rosmarin: Lady of Cardolan; Lochared: Vagabond of Dunland; Simra: Daughter of Khand; Naiore: Lady of the Sweet Swan; Menecin: Bard of the Singing Seas; Vanwe: Lost Maiden; Ronnan: Lord of Thieves; and, Uien of the Twilight

06-27-2004, 06:44 PM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Swamp-elf and direction from here I hadn't considered that the swamp-elf's nightmare-giving could continue after Raefindan leaves, but I think it's a fantastic idea! So yes, Raefindan can figure this out, but not until after Mellonin is willing to tell him her dream. Let the Elves intercept. Another great idea. As for the type of "spill-over", heck, this is story, so go for the more dramatic, as long as it fits canon. To me, both do. Let Ædegard and company stumble on the Elf before, for the same reason - more fodder for a good read! Take the swamp-elf captive. We need a villain. The more troubled and contorted, the better (think of Sméagol). He needs to do as much damage as he can, but not just out of some kind of two-dimensional "I am evil so I do these things" motivation. You've already established (at least, to us) his personal torture at having been rejected by Nimrodel. Deepen the character. If you want help, I'd be glad to. Maybe we can all lend ideas toward this.

06-27-2004, 10:00 PM	#7
Orual Speaker of the Dead Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Superbia Posts: 868	Quick question about dates--for the Gondor group, is it now the 22nd, or the 23rd? Because as I remember, I'm supposed to bring Erundil in on the 23rd. __________________ "Oh, my god! I care so little, I almost passed out!" --Dr. Cox, "Scrubs"

06-28-2004, 07:50 AM	#8
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	I am editing my last post to bring the Rohan group forward another day. So Aedegard's group (as of the edit) is on Dec. 21. Somebody can bring them downriver another 50 miles to another campsite and we'll make it Dec 22, and hten they'll be even! Wohoo! Ravion's group is on Dec 22. Erundil comes tomorrow. I'll update the timeline too. (edit: both done) __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 06-28-2004 at 08:00 AM.

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