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Estelyn Telcontar · 07-08-2004, 09:41 AM

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Sapphire_Flame · 07-08-2004, 10:22 PM

<==GEEK!!! ^ ^

It is interesting, though, how liking Tolkien almost automatically classifies one as a geek. Not that I mind; I'd rather be a geek than one of the "cool" people.

Why is it that Tolkien fanhood deposits one into the realm of geekishness?

On another point, here's a fun test to find out just how much of a geek you are! (Don't worry, Estelyn, it does mention Tolkien in there! ^ ~) THE GEEK TEST

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

Legolas · 07-09-2004, 12:56 AM

Because of the involvement more or less required to get really into his world and understand it. Others see this sort of committment to one book, world, author, et. al as 'nerdy' simply because of the amount of committment.

Note these definitions of 'nerd':

'a student who studies excessively' (confirms my statement above - Tolkien's world being wide open for in-depth study)

'1. [mainstream slang] Pejorative applied to anyone
with an above-average IQ and few gifts at small talk and ordinary
social rituals. 2. [jargon] Term of praise applied (in conscious
ironic reference to sense 1) to someone who knows what's really
important and interesting and doesn't care to be distracted by
trivial chatter and silly status games'

If we're considered 'nerds,' I'd have to say that last definition is the reality of it.

Well, some of us...

tar-ancalime · 07-09-2004, 09:46 AM

I was shopping for a birthday card the other day and saw this one:

Quote:

Front: Birthday greetings from Gandalf! (With a distinctly non-Ian-McKellan image)

Inside: You actually got sort of excited, didn't you? God, you're such a geek!

Back: Get a life!

Also, Sapphire_Flame, that was a great quiz!

Elentari_Elbereth · 05-01-2005, 11:28 AM

I response to the first post, Simply liking Spier-Man, LotR, Starwars movies doesn't make you a geek. Take a look at those Orlando Bloom freaks- many of them care nothing for Tolkien or the Lord of the Rings. I say geekness is in the heart

I would possibly classify myself as a geek and a nerd.

I read the hobbit at age 7, and LotR at 8 and 9- and I understood it all!
I still read the books each year, study Quenya in my spare time, etc.. I speak elvish outloud at times and quote from the books and films.
I also like other fantasy and sci-fi things, both geek-categories (books, games.)

And I'm a nerd in school (just ask my friends.. I'm the "smart one".. though I certainly don't think so in my own)

I see "Geek" and "Nerd" as compliments, because there is just nothing interesting about "Ordinary" people. I take pride in geekiness. besides, I agree with an earlier post (forgot who) that it does take brains to understand tolkien. i'd say Geek or Nerd could imply intelligence for that matter

p.s. this is my first post here.. Barrowdowns is such a nice site!

Encaitare · 05-01-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

OK geeks=conventions-video games-comic books-dungeons and dragons-chess-other
nerd=high maintenance-beeten up by jocks-smart-ya

Enca....
-likes conventions (although she's never been to one yet)
-likes comic books/graphic novels
-likes RPGs
-likes chess and isn't half bad at it either
-has been known in some circles as "smart"

I guess I'm a dork, a nerd, and a geek, then! Go me!

Quote:

p.s. this is my first post here.. Barrowdowns is such a nice site!

Isn't it, though? Welcome to the site!

Elentari_Elbereth · 05-02-2005, 05:34 PM

Thank you! I feel quite welcome here already *smiles*

I agree with Enca, I'd say i'm proud to be a Geek, Nerd, and a Dork!

Actually, I even taught myself to sew and made Eowyn's "shieldmaiden" dress from the films. and I plan to wear it to a convention in the near future

The girls in my class tell me I think too much.. but they only think about one thing :"hot guys". It is beyond me why one can think so much on such a dull subject...

Ha ha! I took the GEEK TEST and scored as a Super Geek. Analta Alasse! Super Geek! I like that title. *imagines a superhero: "super Geek"*

p.s. forgive my quenya grammar

Araréiel · 07-09-2004, 10:18 AM

49.5069% - Super Geek Not to geeky! My boyfriend is a dysfunctional nerd, but hot!

See, to fully appreciate Tolkien requires brains, and brainy people are often considered the nerds and geeks and people tease the nerds and geeks because they're smart. I was tormented and suicidal in fifth grade from it! However, the bullies and teasers will get their comeupance when, at their 10-year-reunions, they see said-nerds and said-geeks are now part of the jet-set.

But I feel sorry for those people who haven't been able to grasp Tolkien.

Both the definitions of Nerd apply to me, and it's something to be proud of. Even non-Tolkienists I know who know who Tolkien is admit he's brilliant, and it almost feels an honor to participate in his world, even if by reading and studying. A lot of people don't have the time neccessary. The Lord knows I barely have time these days with what's happening in my life.

A doctor once told me that reading a lot is a sign of depression, and if I didn't stop and start being more "social," he was going to have me committed. No joke. And schools don't seem to encourage reading mush either.

My boyfriend calls this uber-geeky, but I think it would be beneficial if courses on Tolkien were taught for the parallels to life and the government. It's much more interesting to study our own world when we can compare it to a fantasy world.

Saraphim · 07-11-2004, 02:22 AM

tar-ancalime, I love that card!
I have noticed an influx in the amount and nature of geekdom over the past few years. I blame the LotR movies. They made LotR, which was one of the first things to start a geek cult, into mainstream, thus causing whoever liked them to be a geek, but also part of pop culture.

Of course, there are those few who say they're geeks but aren't. Mostly these are annoying self-inflated people who would jump on Morgoth's bandwagon if it would make them more popular.

Oh, and by the way, I scored a 68.83629% on the little quiz thing. I'm not really a geek-god. Am I?

Sapphire_Flame · 07-13-2004, 12:22 PM

Heh. I was only at 22.68245%. I guess that comes from really hating math...

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

Encaitare · 07-29-2004, 03:15 PM

I GOT THAT CARD TOO!!!! Hooray for my best friend Anna who buys me fun geeky cards! And yes, I did get excited and I don't care! Bah-hah!

My Geek Test Score: 26.62722% - Total Geek
Okay, just because I'm in AP classes and know that the answer is 42 doesn't make me a geek! ... okay, yes it does.

So actually I consider myself a dork. Not a geek, because I know geeks, and they're not me. I like Star Trek (original only! Leonard Nimoy is my hero!) and most fantasy; I've been to a Renaissance Faire and am hopefully going again this year; I dressed up to see RotK on opening day... and need I say that I'm completely obsessed with all things Tolkien? But I really don't give a crap about my hair (while everyone else has it straightened perfectly), I don't follow the fashion, I purposely wear horrendously clashing clothes from time to time just to break the monotony, and I have been known to "ride" through the halls at school a la Monty Python and the Holy Grail, or run wildly through them while singing (badly) the Fellowship theme.

It's cool, though. I have a feeling most people in my grade have gotten over my friend Anna and me being all crazy and weird. I'm sure people talk about us, but I think most of them probably see us up to some LotR-related antics (ie: shouting "Nai yarvaxea rasselya toltuva notto-carinnar!" in the parking lot -- btw, that's what Saruman says to bring down the avalanche at Caradhras in the FotR movie) and just go, "Oh, it's them again" and move on with their lives. My friend Courtney stated, "In most schools, dorks get tortured. In our school, it's cool to be a dork." And it is, because there are so damn many of us!

But I am an utter band geek, now and forever! ::hugs flute::

Sapphire_Flame · 07-30-2004, 10:27 AM

Band geeks rule, man.

As do theatre geeks.

So, pardon my non-geekish stupidity, but what is binary? And how does one find ones age in it?

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

Encaitare · 07-30-2004, 02:55 PM

Binary is the code computers use for just about everything, for all the information. It's all zeros and ones, and the computer interprets these digits to make us all very happy. Out of curiosity I found out my name in binary code yesterday and wrote it on the bottom of my shoe (because that's just the logical thing to do, right?

)

The alphabet can be found here: http://www.tekmom.com/buzzwords/binaryalphabet.html

And numbers and other symbols here:
http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/helpful_data/ascii2.html

Have fun!

Morgul Queen · 07-31-2004, 05:28 PM

Quote:

According to an article in The Ottawa Citizen, people who like movies such as LOTR, Harry Potter, Spiderman and Star Wars are geeks!

If that's geekiness, then I'm a full blown geek - and proud of it!

Geeks rule this world, the 'cool' people are just our grunts. Maybe magazines should think about this pefore labeling us.

07-08-2004, 09:41 AM	#1
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Moderator's note Posts on this thread need to be Tolkien-related! All who participate here, please check your contributions - if you can't edit them to make them relevant, please delete them before the administrators/moderators have to do so. Thanks! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

07-08-2004, 10:22 PM	#2
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	<==The Lofty Tree of Gondor <==GEEK!!! ^ ^ It is interesting, though, how liking Tolkien almost automatically classifies one as a geek. Not that I mind; I'd rather be a geek than one of the "cool" people. Why is it that Tolkien fanhood deposits one into the realm of geekishness? On another point, here's a fun test to find out just how much of a geek you are! (Don't worry, Estelyn, it does mention Tolkien in there! ^ ~) THE GEEK TEST Abedithon le, ~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

07-09-2004, 12:56 AM	#3
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	Because of the involvement more or less required to get really into his world and understand it. Others see this sort of committment to one book, world, author, et. al as 'nerdy' simply because of the amount of committment. Note these definitions of 'nerd': 'a student who studies excessively' (confirms my statement above - Tolkien's world being wide open for in-depth study) '1. [mainstream slang] Pejorative applied to anyone with an above-average IQ and few gifts at small talk and ordinary social rituals. 2. [jargon] Term of praise applied (in conscious ironic reference to sense 1) to someone who knows what's really important and interesting and doesn't care to be distracted by trivial chatter and silly status games' If we're considered 'nerds,' I'd have to say that last definition is the reality of it. Well, some of us... __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.

05-01-2005, 11:28 AM	#5
Elentari_Elbereth Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Carolina (moving to Calif.) Posts: 24	Geek and Proud of it. I response to the first post, Simply liking Spier-Man, LotR, Starwars movies doesn't make you a geek. Take a look at those Orlando Bloom freaks- many of them care nothing for Tolkien or the Lord of the Rings. I say geekness is in the heart I would possibly classify myself as a geek and a nerd. I read the hobbit at age 7, and LotR at 8 and 9- and I understood it all! I still read the books each year, study Quenya in my spare time, etc.. I speak elvish outloud at times and quote from the books and films. I also like other fantasy and sci-fi things, both geek-categories (books, games.) And I'm a nerd in school (just ask my friends.. I'm the "smart one".. though I certainly don't think so in my own) I see "Geek" and "Nerd" as compliments, because there is just nothing interesting about "Ordinary" people. I take pride in geekiness. besides, I agree with an earlier post (forgot who) that it does take brains to understand tolkien. i'd say Geek or Nerd could imply intelligence for that matter p.s. this is my first post here.. Barrowdowns is such a nice site! __________________ Who shall see a white ship leave the last shore, the pale phantoms in her cold bosom Like gulls wailing? ...Who shall see the last evening?

05-02-2005, 05:34 PM	#7
Elentari_Elbereth Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Carolina (moving to Calif.) Posts: 24	triple geek! Thank you! I feel quite welcome here already smiles I agree with Enca, I'd say i'm proud to be a Geek, Nerd, and a Dork! Actually, I even taught myself to sew and made Eowyn's "shieldmaiden" dress from the films. and I plan to wear it to a convention in the near future The girls in my class tell me I think too much.. but they only think about one thing :"hot guys". It is beyond me why one can think so much on such a dull subject... Ha ha! I took the GEEK TEST and scored as a Super Geek. Analta Alasse! Super Geek! I like that title. imagines a superhero: "super Geek" p.s. forgive my quenya grammar __________________ Who shall see a white ship leave the last shore, the pale phantoms in her cold bosom Like gulls wailing? ...Who shall see the last evening?

07-09-2004, 10:18 AM	#8
Araréiel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 92	49.5069% - Super Geek Not to geeky! My boyfriend is a dysfunctional nerd, but hot! See, to fully appreciate Tolkien requires brains, and brainy people are often considered the nerds and geeks and people tease the nerds and geeks because they're smart. I was tormented and suicidal in fifth grade from it! However, the bullies and teasers will get their comeupance when, at their 10-year-reunions, they see said-nerds and said-geeks are now part of the jet-set. But I feel sorry for those people who haven't been able to grasp Tolkien. Both the definitions of Nerd apply to me, and it's something to be proud of. Even non-Tolkienists I know who know who Tolkien is admit he's brilliant, and it almost feels an honor to participate in his world, even if by reading and studying. A lot of people don't have the time neccessary. The Lord knows I barely have time these days with what's happening in my life. A doctor once told me that reading a lot is a sign of depression, and if I didn't stop and start being more "social," he was going to have me committed. No joke. And schools don't seem to encourage reading mush either. My boyfriend calls this uber-geeky, but I think it would be beneficial if courses on Tolkien were taught for the parallels to life and the government. It's much more interesting to study our own world when we can compare it to a fantasy world.

07-11-2004, 02:22 AM	#9
Saraphim Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The other side of freezing. Posts: 404	tar-ancalime, I love that card! I have noticed an influx in the amount and nature of geekdom over the past few years. I blame the LotR movies. They made LotR, which was one of the first things to start a geek cult, into mainstream, thus causing whoever liked them to be a geek, but also part of pop culture. Of course, there are those few who say they're geeks but aren't. Mostly these are annoying self-inflated people who would jump on Morgoth's bandwagon if it would make them more popular. Oh, and by the way, I scored a 68.83629% on the little quiz thing. I'm not really a geek-god. Am I? __________________ I drink Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters! ~ Always remember: pillage BEFORE you burn.

07-13-2004, 12:22 PM	#10
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	<==The Lofty Tree of Gondor Heh. I was only at 22.68245%. I guess that comes from really hating math... Abedithon le, ~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

07-29-2004, 03:15 PM	#11
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	I GOT THAT CARD TOO!!!! Hooray for my best friend Anna who buys me fun geeky cards! And yes, I did get excited and I don't care! Bah-hah! My Geek Test Score: 26.62722% - Total Geek Okay, just because I'm in AP classes and know that the answer is 42 doesn't make me a geek! ... okay, yes it does. So actually I consider myself a dork. Not a geek, because I know geeks, and they're not me. I like Star Trek (original only! Leonard Nimoy is my hero!) and most fantasy; I've been to a Renaissance Faire and am hopefully going again this year; I dressed up to see RotK on opening day... and need I say that I'm completely obsessed with all things Tolkien? But I really don't give a crap about my hair (while everyone else has it straightened perfectly), I don't follow the fashion, I purposely wear horrendously clashing clothes from time to time just to break the monotony, and I have been known to "ride" through the halls at school a la Monty Python and the Holy Grail, or run wildly through them while singing (badly) the Fellowship theme. It's cool, though. I have a feeling most people in my grade have gotten over my friend Anna and me being all crazy and weird. I'm sure people talk about us, but I think most of them probably see us up to some LotR-related antics (ie: shouting "Nai yarvaxea rasselya toltuva notto-carinnar!" in the parking lot -- btw, that's what Saruman says to bring down the avalanche at Caradhras in the FotR movie) and just go, "Oh, it's them again" and move on with their lives. My friend Courtney stated, "In most schools, dorks get tortured. In our school, it's cool to be a dork." And it is, because there are so damn many of us! But I am an utter band geek, now and forever! ::hugs flute::

07-30-2004, 10:27 AM	#12
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	Band geeks rule, man. As do theatre geeks. So, pardon my non-geekish stupidity, but what is binary? And how does one find ones age in it? Abedithon le, ~ Saphy ~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

07-30-2004, 02:55 PM	#13
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Binary is the code computers use for just about everything, for all the information. It's all zeros and ones, and the computer interprets these digits to make us all very happy. Out of curiosity I found out my name in binary code yesterday and wrote it on the bottom of my shoe (because that's just the logical thing to do, right? ) The alphabet can be found here: http://www.tekmom.com/buzzwords/binaryalphabet.html And numbers and other symbols here: http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/helpful_data/ascii2.html Have fun! Last edited by Encaitare; 08-02-2004 at 08:27 PM.

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