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09-15-2002, 10:55 PM
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Seeker of the Straight Path
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The last line of 'disaster of the gladden fields' says that Saruman's defiling of Isuldur's bones was a vile dead " but not his worst". I always read that as confimation of his orc-man breeding program.
That coupled w/ aragorn's comments about the stranger from bree. We have orcish men, only seen in connection w/ saruman and Uruk-Hai. Orcs that are immune to the sun also associated w/ sarunman. the 'complete guide' says they originated w/ sauron [ the uruks] where does that come from? I thought they were saurman's ? but it is an uruk cheiftan that spears frodo [ in the source texts... ahem]. anyway i always assumed that saruman used the dunlendings [ or more evilly the remaing Gondorian dunedain of Isengard] but maybe grima was a sire too! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]
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