Who do you feel sorry for? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Perky Ent · 08-05-2004, 09:58 PM

Definitly Turin! It truly is a shakespear tragety! Also, Frodo a little. Being the only hobbit with 9 fingers...unless someone is born with a deficiency. I doubt it though

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-06-2004, 06:51 AM

I guess I also pity Barliman Butterbur, because this is one of the most normal examples of sorrow we see in the book. This is just a regular old man who runs an inn and he clearly goes through a lot of fear and fright. I see how its easy to forget about him in the grand scheme of things but its definitely an example that I can easily relate to. Sure, we all feel pity for the guy who saves the world with much trauma, but we should also feel pity for the regular man who is bullied.

Encaitare · 08-06-2004, 09:32 PM

Certainly Turin... getting kidnapped and then finding out you killed your best friend ca kinda put a damper on your day.

And Grima, but you all knew that already.

Lhunardawen · 08-07-2004, 04:29 AM

Hurin. Imagine being held captive by Morgoth, seeing your wife and children experience so much suffering just because you cursed him, and he cursed your children in return. It was enough being in the Dark Lord's presence, but seeing his curse come to life was most unbearable.

Neferchoirwen · 08-07-2004, 10:37 AM

Originally, I would have felt sorry for Sam, thinking him as a person who lost all his friends in a war, but that was bit off.

But I really feel sorry for Saruman. He wasted his wisdom and his power on a cause wasn't so worthy of a war. With that in mind, he was also tricked into thinking that he will gain power of middle earth, when in fact he was just being used, and his part of the power bargain will be entirely forgotten. The way he ended wasn't even worthy of an Istari.

Poor guy.

Isowen · 08-08-2004, 01:20 PM

Great! These are all great. I can't decide on who I agree with more. I feel the same way about all of them. Maybe pity has a lot to do with the fate of the ring?!

Iris Alantiel · 08-08-2004, 10:07 PM

Despite the fact that I think Sam is completely underappreciated at times (he probably would prefer it that way), I think the character I pity the most would have to be Faramir. Just try to imagine how terrible that would be, to always be treated as second-rate in spite of such fine characteristics as honesty, nobility, and bravery; to very nearly go to your death in an effort to serve someone who showed you little love at all; and to have your own father discover some kind of affection for you only at the very end of his life, causing him to go mad. And then on top of all that, he had the bad luck of falling in love with Eowyn while she was still attracted to Aragorn and, although that situation was happily resolved, it probably caused him some measure of suffering while it lasted.

08-05-2004, 09:58 PM	#1
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Definitly Turin! It truly is a shakespear tragety! Also, Frodo a little. Being the only hobbit with 9 fingers...unless someone is born with a deficiency. I doubt it though __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

08-06-2004, 06:51 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I guess I also pity Barliman Butterbur, because this is one of the most normal examples of sorrow we see in the book. This is just a regular old man who runs an inn and he clearly goes through a lot of fear and fright. I see how its easy to forget about him in the grand scheme of things but its definitely an example that I can easily relate to. Sure, we all feel pity for the guy who saves the world with much trauma, but we should also feel pity for the regular man who is bullied. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-07-2004, 10:37 AM	#5
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 512	Sorry for Saruman Originally, I would have felt sorry for Sam, thinking him as a person who lost all his friends in a war, but that was bit off. But I really feel sorry for Saruman. He wasted his wisdom and his power on a cause wasn't so worthy of a war. With that in mind, he was also tricked into thinking that he will gain power of middle earth, when in fact he was just being used, and his part of the power bargain will be entirely forgotten. The way he ended wasn't even worthy of an Istari. Poor guy. __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Neferchoirwen; 08-30-2004 at 02:14 AM. Reason: Grammar slippage

08-08-2004, 01:20 PM	#6
Isowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The blackened depths Posts: 86	Wow! Great! These are all great. I can't decide on who I agree with more. I feel the same way about all of them. Maybe pity has a lot to do with the fate of the ring?! __________________ I hope Butterbur sends this promptly. A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber -room: Thing wanted always burried, If he forgets, I shall roast him.

08-08-2004, 10:07 PM	#7
Iris Alantiel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Valinor Posts: 97	Despite the fact that I think Sam is completely underappreciated at times (he probably would prefer it that way), I think the character I pity the most would have to be Faramir. Just try to imagine how terrible that would be, to always be treated as second-rate in spite of such fine characteristics as honesty, nobility, and bravery; to very nearly go to your death in an effort to serve someone who showed you little love at all; and to have your own father discover some kind of affection for you only at the very end of his life, causing him to go mad. And then on top of all that, he had the bad luck of falling in love with Eowyn while she was still attracted to Aragorn and, although that situation was happily resolved, it probably caused him some measure of suffering while it lasted. __________________ Above all shadows rides the Sun and Stars forever dwell: I will not say the Day is done, nor bid the Stars farewell. -- Samwise Gamgee

08-06-2004, 09:32 PM	#3
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Certainly Turin... getting kidnapped and then finding out you killed your best friend ca kinda put a damper on your day. And Grima, but you all knew that already.

08-07-2004, 04:29 AM	#4
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Hurin. Imagine being held captive by Morgoth, seeing your wife and children experience so much suffering just because you cursed him, and he cursed your children in return. It was enough being in the Dark Lord's presence, but seeing his curse come to life was most unbearable.

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