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Saurreg · 08-24-2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

I'm sure Celeborn had some resistance towards Gimli.

Nope. Celeborn welcomed Gimli in earnest and explained that he wished their meeting as a sign of things to come (the reconciliation and warming of ties between dwarves and elves again). Gimli was speechless and could only bow low in agreement and perhaps in respect to Celeborn's graciousness and wisdom.

There will always be bigots either in real life or in fantasy, but the wisest and most far-sighted will often be able to overlook past tresspasses in respect to the big picture. Celeborn, Elrond, Galadriel and Cirdan were perhaps only a few of them. And I dare say perhaps Thranduil's view of Durin's folks have also changed for the better after the Battle of the Five Armies.

Agree with you on your point of view on the dwarves and Noldor.

mark12_30 · 08-24-2004, 11:43 AM

If Celeborn took offense at everyone who gave Galadriel a second look, he'd spend his whole long elvish life in one boxing match after another. He's too smart for that. Admirers come and go, but Galadriel stays, true to her oath and to her love. Does Galadriel show any sign of wandering? No. She and Celeborn share a serene acceptance and companionship that demonstrates confidence and trust.

Galadriel may be the greatest living of the Noldor and Celeborn 'just' a Sindar. But Celeborn has been around long enough to be quite respectable. He's older than Elrond, for instance. He's seen three ages. If he is not as far-sighted as Galadriel, still, he is no slouch and no fool. It would not surprise me if his inner strength were known to Galadriel alone.

Encaitare · 08-24-2004, 11:54 AM

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It would not surprise me if his inner strength were known to Galadriel alone.

Score one for the overlooked husband!

I would like to think that Celeborn does have his own strength. Doubtless he does; we are aware of his great wisdom (which I believe Galadriel herself refers to).

InklingElf · 08-24-2004, 03:48 PM

I'd like to think Celeborn wasn't an obsessive-compuslive kind of husband. He must've known that he would expect alot of men to have compliments for his own wife. How can Galadriel avoid it? Hence the fact that the "Light of Illuvitar" shown in her face and her perfect goldn tresses. Doesn't that contribute to the spark of fascination that Gimli had?

There must be better examples than the ones that I've presented, but isn't it a given that Galadriel should have so many admirers?

08-24-2004, 11:43 AM	#2
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	If Celeborn took offense at everyone who gave Galadriel a second look, he'd spend his whole long elvish life in one boxing match after another. He's too smart for that. Admirers come and go, but Galadriel stays, true to her oath and to her love. Does Galadriel show any sign of wandering? No. She and Celeborn share a serene acceptance and companionship that demonstrates confidence and trust. Galadriel may be the greatest living of the Noldor and Celeborn 'just' a Sindar. But Celeborn has been around long enough to be quite respectable. He's older than Elrond, for instance. He's seen three ages. If he is not as far-sighted as Galadriel, still, he is no slouch and no fool. It would not surprise me if his inner strength were known to Galadriel alone. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

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08-24-2004, 03:48 PM	#4
InklingElf Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 402	I'd like to think Celeborn wasn't an obsessive-compuslive kind of husband. He must've known that he would expect alot of men to have compliments for his own wife. How can Galadriel avoid it? Hence the fact that the "Light of Illuvitar" shown in her face and her perfect goldn tresses. Doesn't that contribute to the spark of fascination that Gimli had? There must be better examples than the ones that I've presented, but isn't it a given that Galadriel should have so many admirers?