Smack The Dwarf!

[ohtatyaro]

Originally Posted by Theron Bugtussle

The root of jealousy is a lack of trust in the other. These two had lived together in marriage for ages

That too . But code allows for wives to accept admirer's attention, even if there is no proven commitment. It only does not allow for actually making anything worth being jealous about. I mean:

Originally Posted by Guinevere

For me it is obvious that Gimli's feelings for Galadriel are a typical example of medieval courtly love and adoration

Yes, yes . Take Guinevere namesake (with full due respect), for one - Arthur did not object to Lancelot, he only could not imagine there was soemthing besides said courtly adoration. I mean, up to a point it was allright to be in awe of someone else's wife, unless one get too far beyond mere adoration

[HerenIstarion]

Probably you'd like this joke about the issue

[ohtatyaro]

I did not know where to put the quesiton, and haven't found special place for it. as it is related to what we discussed in this thread,so maybe it is the right place to post it, after all

So, are there any records of Gimli actually sailing West or where those just rumors?

[Mithalwen]

Well although it is recorded in the Red Book (end of Appendix A ) more as rumour than fact and so (unless there is more in HoME) Tolkien deliberately left this uncertainty. However your point made me laugh since the myth states he went part in desire to see Galadriel again. Now it isn't recorded when Celeborn himself made the trip - imagine if he arrived and found his wife with attendant dwarf groupie....

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Maybe that's the reason Celeborn lingered. He wanted to end the marriage, but he wanted to gain as much as he possibly could from a divorce; thus he manipulated the situation towards infidelity.

*rubs fingers in 'money' motion*

Return to the homeland, nice house by the Sea, a new sailboat....a swift move to Mirth....

[Mithalwen]

I am fairly certain that elvish laws and customs would not permit divorce but if we let that slide .... yes it is a common tale ..... boy meets girl and after a few millenia when the kids have gone they realise they have nothing in common anymore and want to do their own thing ......

Only trouble would be ... who deserted whom? By her departure Galadriel might have been interpreted as leaving him not only the marital home but the marital kingdom which would be a more than generous settlement - even if she did keep the jewellery..... I mean it is not Gally's fault that he chooses to over extend his resources by taking on a second new realm and ends up ligging off his grandsons at Rivendell.

Furthermore an adulterous relationship with a dwarf would surely (to elvish minds) denote clinical insanity and I am not sure if you are allowed to divorce a lunatic .... (NB The Downer Legal Beagles should not interpret this as instruction and attempt to charge me for their opinions..... ) but admittedly there is an outside chance that the legal system my have moved on since the days of Charlotte Bronte ...........

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

yes it is a common tale ..... boy meets girl

Ah yes. The eternal love triangle: Elf Girl meets Elf Boy. Elf Girl and Elf Boy fall in love. Elf Girl and Elf Boy marry. Elf Girl meets Dwarf. Dwarf becomes infatuated with Elf Girl. Elf Girl and Elf Boy divorce. Elf girl shacks up with Dwarf in Paradise. A common tale indeed.

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

By her departure Galadriel might have been interpreted as leaving him not only the marital home but the marital kingdom which would be a more than generous settlement

Mind you, it was of little value once Nenya was decommissioned. Celeborn was so unimpressed with the residual value of the land that thought Mirkwood a better proposition and went off to live there.

With Thranduil ...

Er, I think I'd better stop before I go any further with this ...