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**The Saucepan Man** · 09-24-2004, 09:27 AM

Gimli's the hair of Galadriel, right?

Those Elves in Aman are going to get a lot more than they bargained for when he arrives with Legolas ...

Mithalwen · 09-24-2004, 10:32 AM

Given its symbolism it would be more intriguing if Gimli were Galadriel's hare. The hare represents the moon and since Galadriel represents the morning and so the Sun, it could be taken to mean that Gimli was her complemetary opposite, her true soul mate. Of course the hare also represents fertility and sexuality so it could simply be a euphemism that they were more than just good friends

Ealasaide · 09-24-2004, 10:51 AM

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the hare also represents fertility and sexuality

Interesting! Not that it has any relevance here, but in Native American Indian tradition, the Hare is a trickster, who also represents fear, in that he is a "fear-caller", i.e. he talks constantly about his many fears, thus calling them to him and making very bad things happen to himself.

Mithalwen · 09-24-2004, 12:26 PM

Freud would have a field day with this...

Snowdog · 09-24-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Given its symbolism it would be more intriguing if Gimli were Galadriel's hare. The hare represents the moon and since Galadriel represents the morning and so the Sun, it could be taken to mean that Gimli was her complemetary opposite, her true soul mate. Of course the hare also represents fertility and sexuality so it could simply be a euphemism that they were more than just good friends

Gimli would have to be into shinnying...
So their offspring would be Half-Elven? Half-Dwarven?

Ealasaide, I thought the raven was the trickster in Native-American lore.

Ealasaide · 09-24-2004, 03:54 PM

Snowdog - Actually it depends on which tribe you belong to. You must be from the Northwest Coast! Raven is the trickster amongst the Haida, Tlingit, etc. In the Eastern Woodlands, Rabbit is the trickster. Amongst the Southwestern and Plains tribes, it is coyote.

Snowdog · 09-26-2004, 10:26 PM

Ah, right you are. The Salishness and the Lewis & Clark mania has gripped me. There are many a tricksters about!

I just read Mark12-30 post about rockers way back up the page... I thought we who were weaned on the good ol 60's & 70's rock when it was new, rocking chairs. With my daughter listening to the Stones and Pink Floyd in her mix, some things never change I guess.

Mithalwen · 09-27-2004, 11:09 AM

Err New Romantics are more my time - all those men in frilly shirts and skirts! But the young today seem to have more open tastes.. at least my god-daughter and her crowd do..

Raefindel · 10-11-2004, 09:51 PM

Hello Friends, It's been a while. I've been dealing with some heavy family stuff and haven't been by the Downs in months. Just wanted to check in and see what you are all up to.

09-24-2004, 09:27 AM	#1
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Gimli's the hair of Galadriel, right? Those Elves in Aman are going to get a lot more than they bargained for when he arrives with Legolas ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-24-2004, 10:32 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Given its symbolism it would be more intriguing if Gimli were Galadriel's hare. The hare represents the moon and since Galadriel represents the morning and so the Sun, it could be taken to mean that Gimli was her complemetary opposite, her true soul mate. Of course the hare also represents fertility and sexuality so it could simply be a euphemism that they were more than just good friends __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-24-2004, 12:26 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Freud would have a field day with this... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-24-2004, 03:54 PM	#6
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Snowdog - Actually it depends on which tribe you belong to. You must be from the Northwest Coast! Raven is the trickster amongst the Haida, Tlingit, etc. In the Eastern Woodlands, Rabbit is the trickster. Amongst the Southwestern and Plains tribes, it is coyote. Last edited by Ealasaide; 09-24-2004 at 03:58 PM.

09-27-2004, 11:09 AM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Err New Romantics are more my time - all those men in frilly shirts and skirts! But the young today seem to have more open tastes.. at least my god-daughter and her crowd do.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-26-2004, 10:26 PM	#7
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 666	Ah, right you are. The Salishness and the Lewis & Clark mania has gripped me. There are many a tricksters about! I just read Mark12-30 post about rockers way back up the page... I thought we who were weaned on the good ol 60's & 70's rock when it was new, rocking chairs. With my daughter listening to the Stones and Pink Floyd in her mix, some things never change I guess.

10-11-2004, 09:51 PM	#9
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Hello Friends, It's been a while. I've been dealing with some heavy family stuff and haven't been by the Downs in months. Just wanted to check in and see what you are all up to. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

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