Let me know the reason, there is a good lad or lassie - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

HerenIstarion · 10-01-2004, 01:22 PM

As I was just reminded by Mark 12_30, there is another thing I cordially dislike, the thing I would be glad to bring your attention to. As it is a minor point, it does not deserve the thread all to itself, but, since it is complaining, let all the eggs be kept in one busket, contrary to popular advice.

So, let me, as usual, provide you with a sample. Suppose we were in some other thread, and I were linking you here:

Take a look at this
Take a look at Let Me Know The Reason, There Is Good Lad or Lassie thread

In both cases I provide the link to the same thread - the one you're currently reading. Both are perfectly acceptable and effective, as their raison d'être the purpose they serve - of bringing you here is over as soon as you're here.

But with a proviso! As we have prominent leadership, and are keeping step with progress, any time the software is updated, the link of the former kind is rendered meaningless. Yes, link of the latter kind is also rendered meaningless, but knowing its name, it can be updated with the little help from my friend Mr. Search Engine. The task is even less tiresome when authorship is also indicated, like this:

Take a look at Let Me Know The Reason, There Is Good Lad or Lassie thread by HerenIstarion

Now, future generations of the Downers many centuries hence will have not one, but two clues for the noble task of resurrecting dead links, so may use SE or look the thread up by means of the user profile option of find all threads started by <the author>.

I know, it requires more effort, but, as you've already bothered yourself so much as to find the thread you are going to link us to, spend some 20 seconds more and provide it's name too. Please?

Evisse the Blue · 10-02-2004, 01:05 PM

oookay then...

Let's put a little order and discipline into our virtual lives, what the heck.

***Sharkû*** · 10-02-2004, 02:36 PM

I heartily second Heren's addition: links can be updated, moved, deleted, whatever; but if you post the name of the thread, things are going to be somewhat easier in future occasions.

As for the unnecessary editing of posts, I can only remind you all that the ability to edit your posts is a privilege, not a right. I know boards which have the feature disabled because there have been cases of members posting something which went too far, only to have them remove it later and play innocent. Admittedly, those boards were less well moderated and the users far less well behaved than ours, but I do think any step towards that extreme is a bad one.
I'm not saying all edits need a reason, especially if the changes aren't substantial. However, I'd also say that anything you have to change or improve can and should be posted in a second post. This would definitely go for cases where you change your mind, have a new idea, or want to phrase something better.

HerenIstarion · 10-06-2004, 11:40 PM

Vraiment, vous avez raison, monsieur Sharkû

There is no such a need, indeed. I was beeing overly severe in this respect. Let me modify my demand

:

If the edit you are going to make is prior to posted answers to your original post, go ahead without explanations. Per instance:

24-01-05 6:00 PM Original Post
24-01-05 6:30 PM Edit
24-01-05 7:00 PM Post #2

No reason required - it is obvious that post #2 addresses the issues raised by Original Post and Edit together

On the other hand:

24-01-05 6:00 PM Original Post
24-01-05 8:00 PM Edit
24-01-05 7:00 PM Post #2

In that case, it is better to give reason.

cheers

10-01-2004, 01:22 PM	#1
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	Turn of the tide... As I was just reminded by Mark 12_30, there is another thing I cordially dislike, the thing I would be glad to bring your attention to. As it is a minor point, it does not deserve the thread all to itself, but, since it is complaining, let all the eggs be kept in one busket, contrary to popular advice. So, let me, as usual, provide you with a sample. Suppose we were in some other thread, and I were linking you here: Take a look at this Take a look at Let Me Know The Reason, There Is Good Lad or Lassie thread In both cases I provide the link to the same thread - the one you're currently reading. Both are perfectly acceptable and effective, as their raison d'être the purpose they serve - of bringing you here is over as soon as you're here. But with a proviso! As we have prominent leadership, and are keeping step with progress, any time the software is updated, the link of the former kind is rendered meaningless. Yes, link of the latter kind is also rendered meaningless, but knowing its name, it can be updated with the little help from my friend Mr. Search Engine. The task is even less tiresome when authorship is also indicated, like this: Take a look at Let Me Know The Reason, There Is Good Lad or Lassie thread by HerenIstarion Now, future generations of the Downers many centuries hence will have not one, but two clues for the noble task of resurrecting dead links, so may use SE or look the thread up by means of the user profile option of find all threads started by <the author>. I know, it requires more effort, but, as you've already bothered yourself so much as to find the thread you are going to link us to, spend some 20 seconds more and provide it's name too. Please? __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

10-06-2004, 11:40 PM	#4
HerenIstarion Deadnight Chanter Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,244	I'm not saying all edits need a reason Vraiment, vous avez raison, monsieur Sharkû There is no such a need, indeed. I was beeing overly severe in this respect. Let me modify my demand : If the edit you are going to make is prior to posted answers to your original post, go ahead without explanations. Per instance: 24-01-05 6:00 PM Original Post 24-01-05 6:30 PM Edit 24-01-05 7:00 PM Post #2 No reason required - it is obvious that post #2 addresses the issues raised by Original Post and Edit together On the other hand: 24-01-05 6:00 PM Original Post 24-01-05 8:00 PM Edit 24-01-05 7:00 PM Post #2 In that case, it is better to give reason. cheers __________________ Egroeg Ihkhsal - Would you believe in the love at first sight? - Yes I'm certain that it happens all the time!

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10-02-2004, 01:05 PM	#2
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	oookay then... Let's put a little order and discipline into our virtual lives, what the heck. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

10-02-2004, 02:36 PM	#3
*Sharkû* Hungry Ghoul Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,719	I heartily second Heren's addition: links can be updated, moved, deleted, whatever; but if you post the name of the thread, things are going to be somewhat easier in future occasions. As for the unnecessary editing of posts, I can only remind you all that the ability to edit your posts is a privilege, not a right. I know boards which have the feature disabled because there have been cases of members posting something which went too far, only to have them remove it later and play innocent. Admittedly, those boards were less well moderated and the users far less well behaved than ours, but I do think any step towards that extreme is a bad one. I'm not saying all edits need a reason, especially if the changes aren't substantial. However, I'd also say that anything you have to change or improve can and should be posted in a second post. This would definitely go for cases where you change your mind, have a new idea, or want to phrase something better.