I smell cheeze.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

Essex,
We all trash these movies, but notice the detailed level in which we trash them. It is the sign of some true fans right here. We all trash them because we love them so much that we are compelled to find fault in them. (Well I guess I should stop saying we, as I can only vouch for myself.) I have seen these mvies more times than I can count. Their imprefections make them even better than PJ could have hoped for.

[Morsul the Dark]

Aragorn TTT "It's the beard" I certainly doubt dwarf women have beards...also a little loose for aragorn to joke around like that I found it out of charactor.

Theoden "I know your face," Uh yeah I certainly hope you know your niece.this one though may be disbuted because he was possessed...

I cant think of any others at the moment

[THE Ka]

Ok, I am a major fan of boromir, and i know i might be poking fun at his character for this... Really people, this is going to be hard. But, this is another annoying line from the movies that makes me really mad that it was ever uttered.


After Pippin ever so lovely alerted the orcs of moria and boromir run to the door to try and shut it,

"Great.They have a cave troll." (It seems we have more than one captain obvious...)

Gahh! BAD! No! No! This is one of the lines that i think is an abomination.


~Regretful Ka~

[Orominuialwen]

I certainly doubt dwarf women have beards...

Actually they do. I can't find the exact quote at the moment, but Tolkien does mention this in LotR, along with the foolish belief of some men that there are no Dwarf women, and the Dwarves just spring out of stone. I clearly remember having a conversation with my brother on the subject back when we were first reading LotR, which was before TTT came out.

[Oddwen]

Theoden "I know your face,"

TTT is my least favorite of the Three. Partly because every time one turns around, someone is saying "I know your name!" So, I just replace a choice word.

"My name, Sméagol!"

"Yes, that was my name...Sméagol the Grey."

"I know your face. Sméagol!"

All of which are quite cheezy to my ears.

[The Only Real Estel]

"Great.They have a cave troll." (It seems we have more than one captain obvious...)

Actually I think it only goes "They have a cave troll", but that's not really the point here. I don't mind the line because nobody else knew there was anything out there until they saw the arrows hit the door; and even then I'm sure they just thought there were orcs. So since the majority of the fellowship didn't know the cave troll was about, it couldn't really be an 'obvious' line. I didn't mind it, in case you couldn't tell .

[Boromir88]

I love that line, and it comes from the often witty/satirist Boromir . I can imagine Boromir saying something like that.

"But the enemy holds the eastern bank," objected Boromir. "And even if you pass the Gates of Argonath and come unmolested to the Tindrock, what will you do then? Leap down the Falls and land in the marshes?"

Also, in reply to the Theoden "I know your face." I found that line rather touching, he was just "healed" and then he sees Eowyn, "I know your face." Anyway, maybe I'm biased because I happen to adore Bernard Hill .

[Elianna]

I find the lines which are *ahem* stolen from Star Wars very cheesy. And what's worse, all the rest of the scene is great.

Éowyn: I'm going to save you.
Théoden: You already have........(And I also think he'll continue) Éowyn, you were right about me. You were right. Tell your brother: you were right.

Haven't figured out what Éowyn'd be right about, but she'd still be right....

[Vanwatholiel]

You guys are so mean! Legolas is not Captain Obvious, and you all really act like it is his fault. If you are trying to blame someone, then blame Peter Jackson! Not the actual character. As if he really has control over his lines in the movie. In the real thing, Legolas is not Mr. Obvious! Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead! If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone! Whew! Now I can breathe. Ok, I'm done yelling.

[The Only Real Estel]

If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone! Whew! Now I can breathe

I don't think any of us accuse Legolas of being Cap'n Obvious in the books; just the movies, where his frequent flashes of obviousness have been known to leave me blind for days.

[Sapphire_Flame]

Originally Posted by Vanwatholiel

You guys are so mean! Legolas is not Captain Obvious, and you all really act like it is his fault. If you are trying to blame someone, then blame Peter Jackson! Not the actual character.

I do blame PJ, for giving a great character such horrid lines. I also blame Orlando, because, even with horribly obvious lines, he could definitely delivered them better. Some of the lines could have been much better had they not been delivered in such a toneless and consistant manner.

In the real thing, Legolas is not Mr. Obvious!

Indeed not. In fact, Book!Legolas is one of my favourite characters.

Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead!

I agree with Boromir88; that made no sense. What exactly were you trying to say there?

If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone!

I've read the books ten times. And, in the books, Legolas has a much more compelling and interesting character. In the movies, however, he gets a very raw deal; he's changed from clever and dynamic to a cardboard-cutout Action Teflon Elf™. Personally, I didn't like the change much. PJ and Orlando both could have done a better job.

Oh, and it's "Captain Obvious", by the way.

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

[Rikae]

Well, let me just make a disclaimer; I adore Andy Serkis, think he was an excellent Smeagol, and liked him in the other movies I've seen him in too.

But why, oh why, does the Witch King have to have a West London accent? It's Serkis' real accent, and works for Shagrat, but it's just silly from the WiKi. Why Jackson didn't tell him to change it I cannot fathom - he could have.
The accent makes all the WiKi's lines sound incredibly cheesy to me.

[The Only Real Estel]

Originally Posted by hewhoarisesinmight

a terrible line from the film has to be 'They run as if the very whips of their masters are upon them' What is that supposed to mean? It is a pointless change from the book and just makes Legolas sound stupid even though he sounded stupid a lot in the Two Towers

Well it's pretty straightforward to me. It means they're not just plodding along on their way; they're running like they're about to get whipped any second - quite a difference.

But I agree that Legolas has some...uh...interesting lines.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

Here are some more cheesy lines in chronological order. From FOTR, "What’s this? A ranger caught off his guard?" combined with Arwen putting a knife at Aragorn's throat. I agree about "what does your heart tell you?" From ROTK

Yeah I agree.

[sallkid]

Ok, first we get

What's this? A ranger caught of his guard?

which is cheesy enough and had me (who was expecting glorfindel) thinking "wow, elves are really effeminite" for about 5 seconds.
Then we get our first bit of elvish.

I'm Arwen, I'm here to help you

WHAT? what a stupid bit of cliche cheese for an introduction to elvish?
and the film lost all interest for me until they left rivendel.