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Old 12-10-2004, 08:26 AM   #1
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You guys are so mean! Legolas is not Captain Obvious, and you all really act like it is his fault. If you are trying to blame someone, then blame Peter Jackson! Not the actual character. As if he really has control over his lines in the movie. In the real thing, Legolas is not Mr. Obvious! Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead! If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone! Whew! Now I can breathe. Ok, I'm done yelling.
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:32 AM   #2
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If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone! Whew! Now I can breathe
I don't think any of us accuse Legolas of being Cap'n Obvious in the books; just the movies, where his frequent flashes of obviousness have been known to leave me blind for days.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:16 PM   #3
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If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book!
Been there done that.

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Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead!
This makes absolutely no sense, and before you go on critisizing why don't you read some of my earlier posts, try that....

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Edit: I'm sure if I look hard enough I can find corny lines Tolkien has too, in fact I know one.
"Shortcuts make for delays, but inns make for longer ones."
This I find really corny, but that good corny, sort of like your Grandpa's jokes, with that quirky sort of humor. Where "Die Now!," or "A Diversion!," or "I see you!" are just...bad.
Wow, this is the closest I've ever come to giving someone a bad rep. But, I'm a nice guy...maybe too nice.
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:16 PM   #4
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You guys are so mean! Legolas is not Captain Obvious, and you all really act like it is his fault. If you are trying to blame someone, then blame Peter Jackson! Not the actual character.
I do blame PJ, for giving a great character such horrid lines. I also blame Orlando, because, even with horribly obvious lines, he could definitely delivered them better. Some of the lines could have been much better had they not been delivered in such a toneless and consistant manner.


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In the real thing, Legolas is not Mr. Obvious!
Indeed not. In fact, Book!Legolas is one of my favourite characters.


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Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead!
I agree with Boromir88; that made no sense. What exactly were you trying to say there?


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If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone!
I've read the books ten times. And, in the books, Legolas has a much more compelling and interesting character. In the movies, however, he gets a very raw deal; he's changed from clever and dynamic to a cardboard-cutout Action Teflon Elf™. Personally, I didn't like the change much. PJ and Orlando both could have done a better job.

Oh, and it's "Captain Obvious", by the way.

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Old 12-10-2004, 02:56 PM   #5
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your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there
Possibly the "royal you," ie, PJ.

Having complained about all the cheese in LotR, I can't really imagine a cheeseless version...
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:08 PM   #6
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I wasn't aware that this thread was for the discussion of blame. I thought we were just spouting our favourite cheesy lines we love to hate.

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It seems to me that perhaps the script was not written specifically for the linguists in the audience. I'm not crazy about the screenplays of the movies, but like I said, we love to hate those cheesy lines.

"We're not alone" and all the other dialog surrounding Frodo and Sam in the beginning of The Two Towers really ran me off that movie. It wasn't the strongest opening, but I've forgiven them.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:25 PM   #7
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we love to hate those cheesy lines.
Indeed we do. It's the weird little lines that let us have fun with the films. If they were all completely serious and well done, it wouldn't be as amusing to watch. Prime chances to MST!

How about Gollum's song at the exit of Shelob's lair?

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Old 12-10-2004, 07:40 PM   #8
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I wasn't aware that this thread was for the discussion of blame. I thought we were just spouting our favourite cheesy lines we love to hate.
Quite. This thread is in danger of going up in flames.

If you must discuss so-called "cheesy" lines in the films, then stick to those, rather than getting shirty with one another.

Otherwise I shall take great pleasure in closing this thread.

(Personally, I think that the main lesson of this thread is that one person's "cheeze" is another person's delightful dessert.)
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:23 PM   #9
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(Personally, I think that the main lesson of this thread is that one person's "cheeze" is another person's delightful dessert.)
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