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Old 01-06-2005, 03:22 PM   #1
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Well don't forget that Aragorn turns the ring away in Fellowship at Amon Hen, but I understand what you're saying.
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Old 01-06-2005, 03:55 PM   #2
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The mere desire can corrupt

The One Ring is the ultimate corrupter, it use`s the desire for power. Boromir was doomed the moment he saw it, he wanted to destroy Sauron so much, to save his city, he wasnt a bad man, he was just weak. The desire for the Ring was enough to corrupt Saruman. It would have destroyed Denethor. Inner fortitude and morality were the reasons for saving Aragorn and Faramir, neither of these two wanted great power, and for reasons of good old down to Middle-Earth sense, Samwise Gamgee saw straight through the temptations the Ring gave him. The old saying power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. If any of The Wise should with this Ring overthrow the Lord of Mordor, using his own dark arts, he would set himself on Sauron`s throne, and yet another Dark Lord would appear.
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Old 01-06-2005, 07:07 PM   #3
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but there were some changes that I was dissapointed in. Like how Faramir takes Frodo to Gondor. Honestly, where did that come from? If I remember correctly, he wasn't even tempted by the ring was he? I think it ruined Faramir's character and made it seem that all men are easily corrupted which isn't true.
I think the TTT EE version did a pretty good job of explaining things, and I have mostly gotten over the Faramir business (if only because I'm trying to keep the movie & book versions seperate, for the most part). But I am not interested in Philipa Boyen's (one of the writers) explanation. She esentially says that they couldn't have Faramir the way he was in the book because they'd spent all of the first movie & a half trying to show how powerful the Ring was, & how Frodo could barely resist it; and if Faramir was like he was in the books, it would strip the Ring of all the power they were trying to build up. I disagree with this on several counts. Most importantly, it did nothing of the sort (for me) in the books. Granted, literature and film are two completely different things, but I think that excuse doesn't apply in this particular case. Secondly, as was already brought up, they had Aragorn refuse to take it (barely) at the end of the Fellowship, so Faramir would not join any exclusive club. Add on to that that the Ring does not hold nearly as much power over anyone when he (or she) has not spent a great deal of time around it (it took It a long time to finally wholly corrupt Boromir, if only for a fateful moment), & you see that it is no great stretch for Faramir to pass on it. Having said all that, I repeat that it is the writer's 'reasons' (excuses) for movie Faramir that bother me the most about the character.

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Old 01-06-2005, 07:24 PM   #4
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Although I have no problem with Faramir taking the Hobbits to Osgiliath (he let the Ring go eventually, after all, even if it was for rather strange reasons), I would hardly describe this as a nit-pick. It is an issue that merits (and has received much) substantive discussion in any analysis of the differences between the film and the book.
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Old 01-07-2005, 04:14 PM   #5
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Here's some other nit-picks:

"The Hall of Meduseld was gold in the books, why didn't I see any gold in the movies?"

"Everybody knows that Wormtongue cut Saruman's throat; he didn't stab him in the back like the movies shows."
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Old 01-07-2005, 05:10 PM   #6
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For my money, one of the nittiest picks of all is the complaint that the wargs did not look enough like wolves.

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Old 01-08-2005, 11:09 AM   #7
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For my money, one of the nittiest picks of all is the complaint that the wargs did not look enough like wolves.


Touche!

I don't disagree. It's a purely emotional thing. When I heard that there would be Wargs and Warg-riders in the film, I was so looking forward to seeing them. But they were such a disappointment that it has become one of my major gripes about the films.
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Old 01-10-2005, 04:23 AM   #8
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Everybody knows that Wormtongue cut Saruman's throat; he didn't stab him in the back like the movies shows.
And ROTK EE would have been given a 15 or 18 rating. As all films would have been if Orc blood was red.....
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Old 01-10-2005, 12:49 PM   #9
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I verily believe that there are those people that can tend to be quite "nit-picky," as one would call it. I know that it can even be irritating sometimes to others who are not so picky, but I think that we ought to respect everyone's opinion. No one should get on anyone's case (in a disrespectful manner, that is) for what they post. One can disagree, of course, in a polite manner, but one should always be mindful of others. At least, in my humble opinion.

Refering back to Boromir's original post, although I think the comment about Gandalf's staff light to be rather trivial, I can still see what this person meant. To have been able to see a truly beautiful, bright blinding light (like the aura around Arwen when Frodo first sees her) would have been quite inpirational.
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