What colour is Legolas` hair?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I have sat in trees before but I am not winged.

[wilwarin538]

I know Eomer but hares dont have thumbs so how could it climb?

[Oddwen]

Why Wilwarin, I do believe that you have found evidence of the Tree Hares. The reason that they aren't mentioned anywhere else is that they were gone by the time of LotR and the War of the Ring. (Much like the "Tra-la-la-lally" tree elves.)

But Oddwen I don't understand how that could possibly be talking about Elmerf?

Nay, not Elmerf himself, but his offspring.

And has anyone found evidence that hares have long, pointed ears? I mean, yes they do now, but did they then and there?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I think the hare was winged. Other opinions? (elronds_daughter)

I think it was not winged.

I have not yet read this Unstarted Tales yet (perhaps it got lost on its way to the Philippines), but from the quote Oddwen provided, the wind speed is clearly metaphorical.

Besides, if hares had wings, why then couldn't they fly to save themselves?

. . . and many hyenas, lemmings, and hares fell to their doom with Aragorn on the steep banks of the Entlaundromat . . .

Purple Book

I'll get back to Wilwa's question when I have read the Purple Book again. It's been so long since I last read it.

EDIT: Wilwa, Yosmitë was Elmerf's . . . partner. A weird name, I know, but it was named by the Dark Elves who gave it to Glorfindel as such. In their tongue, I think it means "varmint". Or something like that.

[wilwarin538]

Thank you Nilpaurion for clearing that up. I must not have read your post very thouroughly.

Hyenas and lemmings, interesting.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

In regard to elmerf's disposition as a father, do you think that it could be possibly related to King arthur and Mordred? If you look at it logically Tolkien has a very many references to King Arthur in his books. Avalon and Valinor so on and so forth.
The Lost Tails mentions the hatred between Elmerf and his son. Elmerf (if we are assuming that he came from a long line of hares) would have felt the stability of his nation and position as Supreme ruling Pet of Mirkwood threatened if a strange hare from a distant land came and presented evidence that he was the rightful 'hare' of Elmerf. He probably was a very downtrodden hare being the pet of Legolas, (I support the argument that Elmerf was probably a slightly ugly hare given the fact that Legolas wouldn't have wanted a prettier pet than himself.) and would have taken it to heart that this foreign hare came and presented himself as hare.
I mean Elmerf had worked so hard from keeping his domain safe from the evil hares of Dol Guldur to the south that he would have consulted his council right away. Then the council probably would've brought in a fortune teller because as we all know, hares are very superstitous. The fortune teller would've then prophesied the downfall of Elmerf. He would've been reminded of the poor unfortunate hares that lost their lives in the downfall of Numenor, to whom he was distantly related and he wouldn't have wanted to bring such a tragedy to his people. He would've therefore done what any honarable hare would've, because above all else I believe that Elmerf was an honarable hare, he challenged his son (name? I seem to have forgotten) to a duel.
Here I don't really know the specifics of hare fighting styles, dependent on whether or not they have wings, this can be discussed. But after that we all know what happens, Elmerf was taken by Yosmite to the Holy Isle to be cared for by the Valar, namely Orome as he was the creator of hares, and to return when the hares of Middle-Earth desperately needed him. Now I'm pretty sure this happened during that sticky transitional period after the ring was destroyed and maybe even into the beginning of the fourth age, but I might be mistaken. Elmerf's son then took control over his smaller band of hares and they moved into the south of Mirkwood and gained prominence over a large domain, where there ancestors are still living today.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Although I wonder: why would the Valar accepted Elmerf into ther own realm, considering:

. . . it has been told that the culture of alcohol and rowdiness which dominated Mirkwood (read The Hobbit) so influenced Elmerf that he turned into a true rogue, a devilish rapscallion . . . (Eomer)

Then again, Ainur are weird.

And prone to mood swings.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by AbercrombieOfRohan

his son (name? I seem to have forgotten)

I don't believe he had a name Abercrombie, maybe that's why you forgot it. But I'm sure , since he became a hare ruler that he must have had a name and Im sure someone will be able to find it.

I do have one question though. Did Yosmite stay with Elmerf or return to Mirkwood to be with her son? I also wonder if Caerwen, Elmerf's twin sister may have tried to take Elmerf's place instead of his nameless son, I think she did try something and that may be the cause of her being shunned to guard a cave.

Thoughts???

~*Wilwa*~