Cryptic Clues - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-19-2005, 04:05 AM

You are close, phantom, but no cigar ...

Gil-Galad · 01-19-2005, 12:11 PM

i think i got it

Boy- a male hobbit ("They would be small, only children to your eyes" Aragorn speaking of hobbits)

in agony abducted- it could be Frodos parents, since they died in a boating accident, well they drowned so they were kind of missing

hero's father- Drago is Frodos father, and we all know that Frodo is a hero

so my guess would be Drago

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-19-2005, 12:48 PM

No cigar for you either, Gil-Galad.

the phantom · 01-20-2005, 12:53 PM

I might've been right before, but I just got the answer the wrong way.

If I'm not right this time then I will be quite angry with you, SP.

Boy- a male hobbit ("They would be small, only children to your eyes" Aragorn speaking of hobbits)

in agony abducted- What can be found in "agony abducted"? Bag End!

And who could be found in Bag End? Bungo, Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam

So which one is it?

hero's father- Bilbo and Frodo were not fathers and I don't recall any tales of Sam's children doing heroic things, so it must be Bungo.

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-20-2005, 01:54 PM

Had you found the correct answer, phantom, then I would have awarded the thread to you, even if your reasoning was not spot on.

By way of a further hint, you are all thinking too literally here. Only two words in the clue provide a literal clue. The rest are all cryptic.

Tell you what, as this is taking some time, here's the reasoning to follow:

Find synonyms for "boy", "agony" and "abducted" and order them according to the clues in the question to find a hero's father.

the phantom · 01-20-2005, 02:27 PM

Finally! Here it is...

boy = lad

agony = pain

abducted = took

lad in pain = pa-lad-in

Paladin Took!!!! (Pippin's father)

**The Saucepan Man** · 01-20-2005, 07:25 PM

Give that phantom a cigar!

The thread is yours ...

01-19-2005, 04:05 AM	#1
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	You are close, phantom, but no cigar ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-19-2005, 12:11 PM	#2
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	i think i got it Boy- a male hobbit ("They would be small, only children to your eyes" Aragorn speaking of hobbits) in agony abducted- it could be Frodos parents, since they died in a boating accident, well they drowned so they were kind of missing hero's father- Drago is Frodos father, and we all know that Frodo is a hero so my guess would be Drago __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

01-19-2005, 12:48 PM	#3
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	No cigar for you either, Gil-Galad. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-20-2005, 12:53 PM	#4
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I might've been right before, but I just got the answer the wrong way. If I'm not right this time then I will be quite angry with you, SP. Boy- a male hobbit ("They would be small, only children to your eyes" Aragorn speaking of hobbits) in agony abducted- What can be found in "agony abducted"? Bag End! And who could be found in Bag End? Bungo, Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam So which one is it? hero's father- Bilbo and Frodo were not fathers and I don't recall any tales of Sam's children doing heroic things, so it must be Bungo. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

01-20-2005, 01:54 PM	#5
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Had you found the correct answer, phantom, then I would have awarded the thread to you, even if your reasoning was not spot on. By way of a further hint, you are all thinking too literally here. Only two words in the clue provide a literal clue. The rest are all cryptic. Tell you what, as this is taking some time, here's the reasoning to follow: Find synonyms for "boy", "agony" and "abducted" and order them according to the clues in the question to find a hero's father. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

01-20-2005, 02:27 PM	#6
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Got it!! Finally! Here it is... boy = lad agony = pain abducted = took lad in pain = pa-lad-in Paladin Took!!!! (Pippin's father) __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

01-20-2005, 07:25 PM	#7
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	By Jove, I think he's got it ... Give that phantom a cigar! The thread is yours ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

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