New dudes and dudettes: Most annoying things about LOTR.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It's the strangest thing. I remember this discussion from so many other threads...

Didn't anyone find it annoying that Sauron was an eyeball?

Or that Gimli was a comedy character?

Or that the Balrog had wings!

[Neithan]

Yes Eomer all of these things annoyed me. Though I can hardly criticize PJ for the Balrog wings since it is not proven either way (at least not conclusively). Still I was somewhat disappointed with the Balrog. Much worse are the other things you mentioned. It is the gaping plot holes and the misrepresentation of certain characters (like Gimli and Faramir) that gets me. But all of these things have been talked about so much. One that I don't think gets mentioned enough is Elrond, there is definitely a difference between the two versions of him.

[Assasin]

Eomer, whenever I see the Eye I always think about eye drop commercials. It is rather annoying, I want to know how he can "talk" if he's just an eye ball, or does the Mouth of Sauron carry around a microphone and speakers? I think the balrog had added scariness with the wings. It kind of spread his fiery evilness all around.

The thing that most annoyed me was the cheap breaking of Gandalf's staff in ROTK, other than that I did not appreciate the humor between Legolas and Gimli in the movie, such as in TTT at helms deep Legolas asked gimili wants a crate to stand on so he can see whats happening.

[Assasin]

Ya, the stuff between Gimli and Leggy got a little over the top.

[Celebuial]

I think that for a movie audience you need some comic relief in a "long heavy film(as I've heard it described)", so I think that P-J had good reason for all the Legolas Gimli jokes. Anyway if there wasn't any of that in the movies then Legolas and Gimli's relationship would've just been ignored! I think what you see in the film is better than no portrayal of it at all.

[Boromir88]

I wasn't too bothered about the flaming eye. Until it started blinking, in ROTK, and came with a spotlight.

As for the Faramir/Denethor issue...

Originally posted by Finwe:
Faramir was acting stupid. He respected his father... He didn't had to respect him! Denethor only really loved Boromir, cause Boromir was older and protected Osgiliath against Mordor. Denethor said only bad things about Faramir, but Faramir wanted that his father would think better about him. If I were Faramir... I should left my father for what he is... a men that has a heart of stone...

Faramir has always wanted his Father's approval, in the movies they draw this out bigger then in the books (by taking Frodo to Osgiliath). But, even in the books Faramir wished his father appreciated him like Boromir. I think it's safe to say that you don't feel the same way, as Faramir does towards Denethor, so I'm finding it difficult to judge how you think Faramir acts stupid.

Don't forget the lines of Gandalf..."Your father loves you Faramir. (whisper) He'll remember it in the end."

I think if the times were different, and there was no evil for Gondor to fight, Denethor would have loved Faramir and not Boromir. Faramir was extremely like his father, a capable sword wielder, but their talents are towards lore and thinking. Boromir is the complete opposite, forget about thinking, he throws himself into battle whenever he gets the chance. A reason for Denethor's strong approval of Boromir was because Gondor was at war, and that's what Denethor thought Gondor needed. He thought they needed more "Boromir's," so to say, and wishes that his son was like his brother. If Gondor was in peace? Well, then it would be hard to tell, there would be no use for Boromir, no battles to fight, so Denethor might have liked Faramir better; if Gondor was in different circumstances.

It's safe to say no matter how many Boromir's Gondor had, they had no hope of beating Sauron, but Denethor thought they needed warriors like Boromir to win.

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Originally Posted by Celebuial

I think that for a movie audience you need some comic relief in a "long heavy film(as I've heard it described)", so I think that P-J had good reason for all the Legolas Gimli jokes. Anyway if there wasn't any of that in the movies then Legolas and Gimli's relationship would've just been ignored! I think what you see in the film is better than no portrayal of it at all.

Maybe so; however I liked the Legolas/Gimli connection seen briefly in FOTR EE where Gimli recounts the gift given to him by Legolas (who smiles). Their relationship could have had a few less comic (dare I say 'more serious' ?) moments.

And the "She-Elf" line is at the top of my list. I accepted Arwen taking He-Hobbit Frodo's place at the Fords, but come on...the Nazgul seemed silly thereafter.