**The Return of the King Extended Edition** - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lathriel · 01-29-2005, 12:46 AM

Luckily we all seem to agree on this... The houses of healing was too short. Especially for Faramir and Eowyn. (Where was the kiss?????)
I would have loved to see more of that.

I really liked the Palantir scene though because it explained the dream Aragorn had at Dunharrow.

I was really glad there were more moments with sam and Frodo. Such as the crossroads. Sam seeing the star in the sky while in Mordor. (A tiny favourite part of mine in the book) Also I like the orc army because I was waiting for it to happen in the theatrical and I was so dissapointed when it wasn't in the movie.

Also Karl Urban's acting was superb when he saw Eowyn. He showed so much grief that my eyes grew watery.

Although we critisize PJ a lot I have a great respect for him. I don't think anybody else could have done it or was crazy enough to do it. So I simply admire him for his courage of making this trilogy.

All in all I love the EE but I think there should have been less extra battle scenes and more of those scenes which were about character development. More scenes such as the one between Pippin and Faramir.

Kitanna · 01-29-2005, 09:46 AM

I just thought of this recently (and I knew this scene wouldn't be in) but I was still so sad when there was no Bill the Pony reunion.

Enorëiel · 02-01-2005, 04:34 PM

Wow - I had totally forgotten about that Kitanna! And now that you mention it... I really missed that scene too.

alatar · 02-02-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitanna

I just thought of this recently (and I knew this scene wouldn't be in) but I was still so sad when there was no Bill the Pony reunion.

Not surprised as Jackson et al talk about wanting to have Bill killed by the Watcher at the Hollin Gate in FOTR EE, but that they had to film Bill leaving the area due to studio complaints (or something).

Kitanna · 02-02-2005, 05:23 PM

GASP!

He wanted to kill Bill the Pony!? I'm shocked and horrified. And want to say many horrible things after PJ for such an evil thought, but I shall not for I will regret it later.

Lathriel · 02-02-2005, 06:56 PM

Same as Kitanna

GASP!!!!!

I love Bill the pony, if he was killed... I dare not say any more!!!
In truth I hope that it is a rumor because I was also looking for the reunion between Frodo and Bill and I was sad to see it wasn't there.

However, just maybe I'll forgive PJ

alatar · 02-03-2005, 10:14 AM

Lathriel and Kitanna,

Note that I've not heard anything regarding Bill's final demise or resting place; however, if you listen to the Directors' Commentary on FOTR EE DVD, you will hear that PJ et al wanted to do poor Bill in. At first I thought that they were joking, but as they droned on about it for a few minutes, I realized that they would have 'killed Bill' if not restrained.

One of my complaints regarding PJ is that in the ROTK EE he decided to add non-Book stuff (like the infamous drinking scene) yet couldn't show Sam reuniting with Bill - weren't the EE versions supposed to be for Tolkien fans like us?

If Sam could cry over releasing Bill, was the pony not then important enough for a 30 second nod in ROTK EE?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 02-03-2005, 11:21 AM

When the Black Gate opened, all we could see was the Mouth of Sauron riding out, yes? But then, seconds later, it opens again and this absolutely gargantuan army comes pouring out. Where were they hiding?

01-29-2005, 12:46 AM	#1
Lathriel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through Middle-Earth (Sadly in Alberta and not ME) Posts: 612	Luckily we all seem to agree on this... The houses of healing was too short. Especially for Faramir and Eowyn. (Where was the kiss?????) I would have loved to see more of that. I really liked the Palantir scene though because it explained the dream Aragorn had at Dunharrow. I was really glad there were more moments with sam and Frodo. Such as the crossroads. Sam seeing the star in the sky while in Mordor. (A tiny favourite part of mine in the book) Also I like the orc army because I was waiting for it to happen in the theatrical and I was so dissapointed when it wasn't in the movie. Also Karl Urban's acting was superb when he saw Eowyn. He showed so much grief that my eyes grew watery. Although we critisize PJ a lot I have a great respect for him. I don't think anybody else could have done it or was crazy enough to do it. So I simply admire him for his courage of making this trilogy. All in all I love the EE but I think there should have been less extra battle scenes and more of those scenes which were about character development. More scenes such as the one between Pippin and Faramir. __________________ Back again

01-29-2005, 09:46 AM	#2
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	I just thought of this recently (and I knew this scene wouldn't be in) but I was still so sad when there was no Bill the Pony reunion. __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

02-01-2005, 04:34 PM	#3
Enorëiel Wight Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hobbiton, U.S.A. Posts: 165	Wow - I had totally forgotten about that Kitanna! And now that you mention it... I really missed that scene too. __________________ You can take a hobbit out of the Shire but you can't take the Shire out of a hobbit. Whoever said "Nothing is impossible" never tried to slam a revolving door.

02-02-2005, 05:23 PM	#5
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	GASP! He wanted to kill Bill the Pony!? I'm shocked and horrified. And want to say many horrible things after PJ for such an evil thought, but I shall not for I will regret it later. __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

02-02-2005, 06:56 PM	#6
Lathriel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through Middle-Earth (Sadly in Alberta and not ME) Posts: 612	Same as Kitanna GASP!!!!! I love Bill the pony, if he was killed... I dare not say any more!!! In truth I hope that it is a rumor because I was also looking for the reunion between Frodo and Bill and I was sad to see it wasn't there. However, just maybe I'll forgive PJ __________________ Back again

02-03-2005, 10:14 AM	#7
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	Lathriel and Kitanna, Note that I've not heard anything regarding Bill's final demise or resting place; however, if you listen to the Directors' Commentary on FOTR EE DVD, you will hear that PJ et al wanted to do poor Bill in. At first I thought that they were joking, but as they droned on about it for a few minutes, I realized that they would have 'killed Bill' if not restrained. One of my complaints regarding PJ is that in the ROTK EE he decided to add non-Book stuff (like the infamous drinking scene) yet couldn't show Sam reuniting with Bill - weren't the EE versions supposed to be for Tolkien fans like us? If Sam could cry over releasing Bill, was the pony not then important enough for a 30 second nod in ROTK EE?

02-03-2005, 11:21 AM	#8
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	When the Black Gate opened, all we could see was the Mouth of Sauron riding out, yes? But then, seconds later, it opens again and this absolutely gargantuan army comes pouring out. Where were they hiding? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

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