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Lathriel · 03-09-2005, 05:51 PM

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damaging books! No! But, if I could get a new copy which was cheap

A great place to find cheap LOTR books is a seconhand bookstore. I got a copy of ROTK for One Canadian dollar!

I should probably go back and see if they have a cheap version of TTT.

Lyta_Underhill · 03-10-2005, 06:47 PM

For those of you who live out of boxes like me and can't find anything, even the Tolkien books that used to be right by the bed, here's a helpful link! I found online the text to "The Palantir" and "Taming of Smeagol" last night and did a little quick catchup from this site: http://www.networksam.com/lord_of_the_rings.htm in the moments I wasn't doing online work (bleah!). It looks like the entire text of LOTR is on the site, although it cannot be copied, thus quoted sections would have to be long-handed. It was a big help to me, though!

Cheers!
Lyta

Celebuial · 03-11-2005, 03:12 AM

Wow that site is great!!!!!! Thanks Lyta!!!!

I promise I will join you in discussion soon. I would've been doing it now but I got home, picked up my copy of LotR..... and promptly forgot where you guys are!!!!!!! Never mind..... I'l start tonight!!!

davem · 04-22-2005, 03:45 PM

So what's happening?

Has everyone given up on this? Three posts on the current chapter so far is a bit sad!

Do people find book four itself boring, or have people just given up on the project? I remember when this project began our esteemed Esty also started a HoME read along thread which managed to run for about half a dozen chapters before fizzling out. Will the main project go the same way, or are people just waiting for book five, when things get 'interesting' again, with the big battles & high adventure?

I wonder if the movies haven't played some part in shaping people's view of the story by emphasising the Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli storyline & making it seem more interesting.

On the other hand maybe Sam got it right when he said to Frodo that at this point some readers/hearers of the story would say 'Shut the book now Dad, we don't want to read anymore.'

Is it that people find the Frodo/Sam/Gollum storyline too 'dark' & oppressive, or is it that they simply find it too boring? If its the latter, what does that say about us as readers & as Tolkien fans? I have to say that this part of the story has become increasingly meaningful & significant to me as I've grown older, so I've actually been looking forward to this part of the story. How about others? Maybe a more significant question would be, who do readers consider the 'real' hero & central character of LotR to be - Frodo or Aragorn - & how much of a part has PJ played in shaping that opinion?

Whatever, we still have about six months worth of discussion to go - & that's if we limit ourselves only to the main chapters & Aragorn & Arwen, & don't stray into the rest of the Appendices.

Is there enough interest in the project to sustain us to the end of the Road? Or will we fall before the end. Speaking personally I'm going to carry on with it, even if I'm the only one posting & nobody reads what I post! I've learned a great deal over the months - from other posters &, if it doesn't sound too smug, from my own personal discoveries & the connections I've made. I've probably paid more attention to the text in this reading than in any of my previous readings & my appreciation of Tolkien & his work has increased immensely as a result.

Well?

Maédhros · 04-22-2005, 04:37 PM

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Has everyone given up on this? Three posts on the current chapter so far is a bit sad!

Do people find book four itself boring, or have people just given up on the project? I remember when this project began our esteemed Esty also started a HoME read along thread which managed to run for about half a dozen chapters before fizzling out. Will the main project go the same way, or are people just waiting for book five, when things get 'interesting' again, with the big battles & high adventure?

Did you really expect for people to continually post in the book discussion? As the discussion moves on, it looses the novelty aspect of it and becomes routine, people get bored and tired. It is as simple as that.
I was involved in a similar book discussion in another forum and the same thing happened.

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Is there enough interest in the project to sustain us to the end of the Road? Or will we fall before the end. Speaking personally I'm going to carry on with it, even if I'm the only one posting & nobody reads what I post! I've learned a great deal over the months - from other posters &, if it doesn't sound too smug, from my own personal discoveries & the connections I've made. I've probably paid more attention to the text in this reading than in any of my previous readings & my appreciation of Tolkien & his work has increased immensely as a result.

Good for you.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 04-22-2005, 05:30 PM

Sigh, if only there were more hours in the day. And that I didn't get 'Websensed' everytime I try to access the Barrow-downs at lunch!

But I'm in it for the long haul, I believe.

littlemanpoet · 04-22-2005, 08:22 PM

I have the time, but I'd hate to re-start somewhere in the middle of the story. See, I just started The Hobbit again for the first time in over ten years with the intention of reading straight through at about a chapter a day if I can pull it off. That way I might catch up by the time you guys reach RotK. Yeah, it means I'm missing out now, but - oh, I don't know! I just don't want to start in the middle. Please try and convince me that it's worth it.

03-10-2005, 06:47 PM	#2
Lyta_Underhill Haunted Halfling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: an uncounted length of steps--floating between air molecules Posts: 841	Online Text Reference For those of you who live out of boxes like me and can't find anything, even the Tolkien books that used to be right by the bed, here's a helpful link! I found online the text to "The Palantir" and "Taming of Smeagol" last night and did a little quick catchup from this site: http://www.networksam.com/lord_of_the_rings.htm in the moments I wasn't doing online work (bleah!). It looks like the entire text of LOTR is on the site, although it cannot be copied, thus quoted sections would have to be long-handed. It was a big help to me, though! Cheers! Lyta __________________ “…she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”

03-11-2005, 03:12 AM	#3
Celebuial Wight Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardiff during term time/Leicester in the holl's Posts: 129	Wow that site is great!!!!!! Thanks Lyta!!!! I promise I will join you in discussion soon. I would've been doing it now but I got home, picked up my copy of LotR..... and promptly forgot where you guys are!!!!!!! Never mind..... I'l start tonight!!! __________________ Ú cilith ‘war. Ú men ‘war. Boe min mebi. Boe min bango.

04-22-2005, 03:45 PM	#4
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	So what's happening? Has everyone given up on this? Three posts on the current chapter so far is a bit sad! Do people find book four itself boring, or have people just given up on the project? I remember when this project began our esteemed Esty also started a HoME read along thread which managed to run for about half a dozen chapters before fizzling out. Will the main project go the same way, or are people just waiting for book five, when things get 'interesting' again, with the big battles & high adventure? I wonder if the movies haven't played some part in shaping people's view of the story by emphasising the Aragorn/Legolas/Gimli storyline & making it seem more interesting. On the other hand maybe Sam got it right when he said to Frodo that at this point some readers/hearers of the story would say 'Shut the book now Dad, we don't want to read anymore.' Is it that people find the Frodo/Sam/Gollum storyline too 'dark' & oppressive, or is it that they simply find it too boring? If its the latter, what does that say about us as readers & as Tolkien fans? I have to say that this part of the story has become increasingly meaningful & significant to me as I've grown older, so I've actually been looking forward to this part of the story. How about others? Maybe a more significant question would be, who do readers consider the 'real' hero & central character of LotR to be - Frodo or Aragorn - & how much of a part has PJ played in shaping that opinion? Whatever, we still have about six months worth of discussion to go - & that's if we limit ourselves only to the main chapters & Aragorn & Arwen, & don't stray into the rest of the Appendices. Is there enough interest in the project to sustain us to the end of the Road? Or will we fall before the end. Speaking personally I'm going to carry on with it, even if I'm the only one posting & nobody reads what I post! I've learned a great deal over the months - from other posters &, if it doesn't sound too smug, from my own personal discoveries & the connections I've made. I've probably paid more attention to the text in this reading than in any of my previous readings & my appreciation of Tolkien & his work has increased immensely as a result. Well? __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

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04-22-2005, 05:30 PM	#6
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Sigh, if only there were more hours in the day. And that I didn't get 'Websensed' everytime I try to access the Barrow-downs at lunch! But I'm in it for the long haul, I believe.

04-22-2005, 08:22 PM	#7
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I have the time, but I'd hate to re-start somewhere in the middle of the story. See, I just started The Hobbit again for the first time in over ten years with the intention of reading straight through at about a chapter a day if I can pull it off. That way I might catch up by the time you guys reach RotK. Yeah, it means I'm missing out now, but - oh, I don't know! I just don't want to start in the middle. Please try and convince me that it's worth it.