The Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread

[SamwiseGamgee]

Ah, Formendacil, your point is noted, but I feel that to bestow the title of Warg Rider upon any other than the original and best is an unwise decision. Now, Eomer can correct me if I'm wrong on this point, but I feel it is a valid one to make.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Apologies to The Appreciation Thread for my lack of engagement recently. Computer difficulties.

Hail Gangamel! It is always lovely to see more friends join us here. Once again the topic of Wargy has been brought up, though here the legend is given a slight twist. You speak of this Wargy as a true great of Middle-earth, yet we have heard that that is not so right. I can't remember exactly where in The Thread we spoke of him, but he came across as rather a morally reprehensible fellow indeed. Perhaps you care to defend your friend from these accusations?

As for Orcs, now there is an existential dilemma. Great pity we must feel for these wretched creatures, at least in the whole scheme of things. Theirs is a terrible and miserable fate. Yet we should always remember that Orcs and Wargs are not necessarily linked to one another.

Formendacil touches upon a classic issue in common perceptions of Wargs. It is a shame that the title of Warg Rider has been usurped so diabolically in recent times, always by unworthy Orcs. That is not to say that these Orcs are pathetic; who could ever forget the deeds of the 'Warg Rider' of the 3rd Age? That beast who terrified Elrond, Theoden, Faramir, the Dunlending Wildmen and the entire race of Dwarves among others.

But there is only one Warg Rider: Cam Beleg, of whom Samwise has told the full chilling tale already on The Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread.

[SamwiseGamgee]

Those persistent computer difficulties have caused you more pain than any mere mortal could ever tell, Eomer. The loss of J'Lo is one which shall forever scar Mohammed Milla, I fear.

But getting back to business. Ahem. I am glad that we have clarified this point regarding warg riders. In the film (that most unholy place as far as wargs are concerned) Saruman commanded that the warg riders be sent forth. This has led to the common misconception that any beast who rides on a warg is a warg rider. False. To be a warg rider takes greatness the like of which you and I may never know. There are a few select warg riders who we here at the thread recognise, but it is not, as far as we are concerned, an expandable list. Perhaps one of us could list a definitive guide to warg riders. I can, off the top of my head, think of only two:
The Warg Rider, Cam Beleg; and
the warg rider of the third age, of whom Eomer has told us.
Note that only one Warg Rider has capitalisation. A key point, I feel.

Anyway, my ambling has persisted long enough. I hope that out there our fellow warg and Warg Rider appreciators have new tales to tell on this, the greatest of threads.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I have dug up no new tale of Wargness in the archives of the Vanyar, unless you want to know about the great sock-hop that happened before the coming of Eärendil.

I may have to search in a new place. Perhaps the local (Filipino) folklore contains influences of the Wargish thought.

[SamwiseGamgee]

I'm sure you shall find that area of the world most conducive to your search, Nilpaurion. Remember my tale of the Black Mountain Warg?

The peoples of those lands have a deep understanding and love for wargs which we athe the Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread can only look upon with envy. Some say that wargs have smiled more fondly upon other lands, I say who can blame them. "When one turns his back on a warg he turns his face to pain," as Elrond once said.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Perhaps I could search for a tale related to the 'warg riders' of Saruman. For I have heard through the grapevine (well, a vine of discriminate sort) that this was not wholly an invention on the part of Peter Jackson and his cronies.

Allegedly there existed a group of renegade Orcs calling themselves the Warg Riders, and they supposedly caused consternation during the early Third Age. Hopefully my search for a tale will not prove fruitless.

[SamwiseGamgee]

Let me tell you, Eomer, that even the tiniest titbit of information regarding such an exciting and rebellious group would be greatly appreciated. My breath is heavy with anticipation, let me assure you.