The two types of LotR fans - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

03-29-2005, 10:15 PM

When I started out, I loved the story, but, as time went on, I began to wonder about the world, and my wondering lead me to research. Now, I can't say that I am a lover of the world or of the story more. I am equally both. I love everything about LOTR, the characters, the place, the languages, the weaponry. I don't fit completley into either category. I am both.

Amrod the Hunter · 04-04-2005, 12:56 PM

Actualy,the story and the world go together.You can't enjoy the story if you don't love the world where it happens,and vice versa.
There are many who love LOTR just because of the movies,but I think there are not many of them there,altough there are some....
I love LOTR because of the magic Tolkien created by mixing a great storx,excelent characters,and the great world where it all happens.
BTW:I also think that the characters play an impornant role in loving this book because they're so good.

04-06-2005, 05:57 PM

I have to say that I fit more in the world category. At first I was all about the story, but then I satrted to read the Sil and The Unfinished Tales and after re-reading every book(alot of times), learining the history and a bit of Sindarin, I started to be more world type. I can tell my mom's story type, though. She read the books and all and loved them but if I ask her some history of ME questions she goes all confused about the ages and stuff. To her(unlike me)it,s more about the characters than the events.

eowyntje · 04-12-2005, 03:38 AM

Very very hard to decide, I think I'm 60% story, 40% world.
I started the Sil, took notes and made timelines to remmember everything, but never finished it because I was to busy with school. I love the story on how middle earth came to exist, but I lost interest when I came to all the different elf-races. Most lord of the rings fans disagree with me, but I don't find elves that interesting. Its the stories of other races that interest me, humans, drawfs, hobbits, elves often seem so... perfect.

You forgot one type of lotr of the rings fans: the hate-the-story, hate-the-world, movie-with-cute-actors-lovers.

Celebuial · 04-13-2005, 02:18 AM

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elves often seem so... perfect.

I'm afraid I have to disagree: If Elve's were perfect then they wouldn't have statred to kill each other over the silmarils. They can still be corrupted and used by evil.

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You forgot one type of lotr of the rings fans: the hate-the-story, hate-the-world, movie-with-cute-actors-lovers.

Well, good point, but can you really class them as LotR fans? If they only like the movie for the cute actors surely we shouldn't call them LotR fans?

eowyntje · 04-13-2005, 03:14 AM

You have a good point that elves can be corrupted, that's one thing that's interetsing about them. but most of their actions and motions are, shall I say, 'better then human'. I like races with lots of weaknesses to fight. Dwarfs interest me because of their greed, stubbornness etc, Humans because of their weakness to lust, power, etc, and hobbits... well, they're just adorable

I think its debatable wether the film-lovers and cute-actors lovers are lord of the rings fans, they do call theirself lotr-fans. They seach the internet for pictures and snapshots of the films, collect the posters and objects from the movie, and so on, ut they have no connection with the book. Its hard to say if they are fans of the Lord of the rings since the book and the movie have the same title.

Celebuial · 04-13-2005, 04:27 AM

I s'pose movie fans would have to be classed as LotR fans as they must love the story even if it's the somewhat watered down version in the films. They still appreiciate the basic parts of the narrative.

However I don't think you can class the actor-fans as LotR fans. They will go and watch every other film with that actor/actress and buy all of the merchandise to go with it. Although there's no deniying that some of the actors are cleary very attractive you can't be a fan of something like LotR just because you think someone looks good in elven robes or with hairy hobbit feet(?).

I like all the characters from LotR. However, I do feel a certain attachment to the Elves. I think this is becuse of all the sadness they endure and all the knowledge that burdens them at times. I understand where you're comming from though, Eowyntje. I s'pose each race has it's lovable little quirks and that their different characteristics and idiosyncrasies appeal to, and touch different people.

04-12-2005, 03:38 AM	#4
eowyntje Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 47	Very very hard to decide, I think I'm 60% story, 40% world. I started the Sil, took notes and made timelines to remmember everything, but never finished it because I was to busy with school. I love the story on how middle earth came to exist, but I lost interest when I came to all the different elf-races. Most lord of the rings fans disagree with me, but I don't find elves that interesting. Its the stories of other races that interest me, humans, drawfs, hobbits, elves often seem so... perfect. You forgot one type of lotr of the rings fans: the hate-the-story, hate-the-world, movie-with-cute-actors-lovers. __________________ No matter what they think or what they do, No matter what they feel Or what they see in you, You're gonna get there, Whatever they say, And nobody's going to stand, in the way

04-13-2005, 03:14 AM	#6
eowyntje Animated Skeleton Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 47	You have a good point that elves can be corrupted, that's one thing that's interetsing about them. but most of their actions and motions are, shall I say, 'better then human'. I like races with lots of weaknesses to fight. Dwarfs interest me because of their greed, stubbornness etc, Humans because of their weakness to lust, power, etc, and hobbits... well, they're just adorable I think its debatable wether the film-lovers and cute-actors lovers are lord of the rings fans, they do call theirself lotr-fans. They seach the internet for pictures and snapshots of the films, collect the posters and objects from the movie, and so on, ut they have no connection with the book. Its hard to say if they are fans of the Lord of the rings since the book and the movie have the same title. __________________ No matter what they think or what they do, No matter what they feel Or what they see in you, You're gonna get there, Whatever they say, And nobody's going to stand, in the way

04-13-2005, 04:27 AM	#7
Celebuial Wight Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardiff during term time/Leicester in the holl's Posts: 129	I s'pose movie fans would have to be classed as LotR fans as they must love the story even if it's the somewhat watered down version in the films. They still appreiciate the basic parts of the narrative. However I don't think you can class the actor-fans as LotR fans. They will go and watch every other film with that actor/actress and buy all of the merchandise to go with it. Although there's no deniying that some of the actors are cleary very attractive you can't be a fan of something like LotR just because you think someone looks good in elven robes or with hairy hobbit feet(?). I like all the characters from LotR. However, I do feel a certain attachment to the Elves. I think this is becuse of all the sadness they endure and all the knowledge that burdens them at times. I understand where you're comming from though, Eowyntje. I s'pose each race has it's lovable little quirks and that their different characteristics and idiosyncrasies appeal to, and touch different people. __________________ Ú cilith ‘war. Ú men ‘war. Boe min mebi. Boe min bango.

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03-29-2005, 10:15 PM	#1
~Lady Of The Wood~ Guest Posts: n/a	When I started out, I loved the story, but, as time went on, I began to wonder about the world, and my wondering lead me to research. Now, I can't say that I am a lover of the world or of the story more. I am equally both. I love everything about LOTR, the characters, the place, the languages, the weaponry. I don't fit completley into either category. I am both.

04-04-2005, 12:56 PM	#2
Amrod the Hunter Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dol Amroth Posts: 54	Actualy,the story and the world go together.You can't enjoy the story if you don't love the world where it happens,and vice versa. There are many who love LOTR just because of the movies,but I think there are not many of them there,altough there are some.... I love LOTR because of the magic Tolkien created by mixing a great storx,excelent characters,and the great world where it all happens. BTW:I also think that the characters play an impornant role in loving this book because they're so good.

04-06-2005, 05:57 PM	#3
Linwe Guest Posts: n/a	I have to say that I fit more in the world category. At first I was all about the story, but then I satrted to read the Sil and The Unfinished Tales and after re-reading every book(alot of times), learining the history and a bit of Sindarin, I started to be more world type. I can tell my mom's story type, though. She read the books and all and loved them but if I ask her some history of ME questions she goes all confused about the ages and stuff. To her(unlike me)it,s more about the characters than the events.