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Old 04-10-2005, 07:26 PM   #1
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To tell you the truth Estel, instead of a corsair captain I had always wondered why PJ didn't do a cameo as Forlong.

I am tempted to "cast" Alan Rickman since I've always enjoyed the movies he's been in (especially Harry Potter and Dogma), but I just don't know where to put him. Any help?

I think Robin Williams would make a pretty good Bombadil fellow.
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Old 04-11-2005, 02:04 PM   #3
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Folks, Imrahil was not Boromir and Faramir's uncle. He was Denethor's cousin.

Boromir was 40 and Faramir was 35. Denethor was 88. In him, the blood of Numenor almost ran true, so he would have lived to a ripe old age in his hundreds. Not as true as Aragorn, who was 87 and still seemed as young as Boromir.

But Imrahil, I always judged, was not much older than Boromir. Maybe 41 or 42. I actually liked their casting of him ... the guy who played him certainly looked fair ... they even accentuated it by making him fair-haired as well, even if in the books he like all Gondorians, had jet black hair. The fair-hair would have added that extra notion if Legolas had mentioned Nimrodel, Amroth, and the 'unrecorded' elf/man mingling that occured in South Gondor.

I wish they had elaborated his part, instead of his being merely the chief of the soldiers. It wouldn't have taken much, a little bit with him talking to Denethor about the siege weapons, him searching the field of the dead, and being one of the guys who saw Eomer scream in anguish, and maybe a little part with him saying "are even the women of Rohan riding to our aid?" and lastly, he should have been at the Black Gates with Aragorn, Eomer, and Legolas. He should have been the knight holding Aragorn's banner, as a matter of fact.

All it would have taken would be like, three close up reaction shots of his face, two more lines, and two or three shots of him personally fighting. Whammo! Prince Imrahil, captain of Dol Amroth.

I pretend like it IS him at the Black Gates with Aragorn. They never show that random soldier's face.

Other than that ... Gildor Inglorien, and Glorfindel. Well, the elf leading the elves Arwen rode with had golden hair ... he might just as well have been Gildor, and at the Coronation, next to Elrond there were TWO golden haired Noldor ... one who as mentioned above was supposed to be Glorfindel ... so perhaps the other was Gildor.
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Old 04-11-2005, 05:12 PM   #4
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Keeper, Denethor married Imrahil's sister, Finduilas. Making him Boromir and Faramir's uncle. I know a girl who was an aunt before she was born. Her older, old, old sister had a kid before her lil sis was born.

I do wish they would have elaborated his part as well. I think it would have given Gondor an extra standout guy, then just your normal soldier that got bitten, walluped, whapped, beaten, smashed, and ground up into little pieces. I don't understand why Jackson added all these extra characters on Rohan's side (Hama, Gamling, Haleth, Aldor, Grimbold) but leaves Gondor to Faramir, his lil bud Madril, and the Denethor brown noser Irolas.
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OK this is really Anorak-y but Imrahil is one of my favourites. Home gives the family tree for the Princes of Dol Amroth and at the time of the War of The Ring, Imrahil was about sixty. ( only a little younger than Theoden but since he was of pure Numenorean stock and din't die until 100, he could still be regarded as a man in his prime).

He had three sons all older than Lothiriel who married Eomer, and a two year old grandson. I think his age makes him more of a model for what Denethor should have been both as a leader and a father.

AS for casting him, I might go for someone a bit younger but although he isn't how I visualise a Numenorean (dark hair grey, eyes blah ), since Boromir and Faramir have brownish colouring .... Harrison Ford?

I would like the guy who plays Lucius Malfoy in the HP films to play Thranduil but I have blanked on his name and maybe Jeremy Sheffield as Glorfindel.

Judi Dench should be Ioreth.
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I would like the guy who plays Lucius Malfoy in the HP films to play Thranduil but I have blanked on his name
That would be Jason Isaacs. But could we separate him from that marvellously evil performance in Chamber of Secrets?

Miriam Margolyes would have made a good Ioreth too; she is very hobbit like with all that hair, but she could also throw out suitably stern faces such as I imagine Ioreth might make. Alison Steadman might have been interesting in that role too, as I can imagine the sour face she might pull as Aragorn attempts his healing, only to be shocked when his work is pulled off successfully.

David Thewlis might have made a good Bill Ferny if he'd had a speaking part, or even Grima, making him seem less 'oily' and more sneaky.
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Ah I did wonder but then there is anothe Jason much older and I got confused :S..
I was thinking of JD as Mistress Quickly in Henry 5....

Thranduil has to be a little bit dangerous....
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Jason Isaacs was really good in the Patriot.

I always liked William Paxton (the one from Remember the Titans, not Twister). But his southern voice doesn't fit too many middle-earth characters I pressume.

I keep getting the image of Billy Pullman for Imrahil.
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