Did the Evenstar break? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Celebuial · 04-20-2005, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Assasin

In scene 64 of RotK extended Aragorn is wearing the Evenstar, even though he was not in the riding away scene.

Are you sure??? I'm sure he's not, but I'll re-check as soon as I get home!

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Just wondering, but did anyone notice that in the book the necklace Arwen gave Frodo is described a lot like the Evenstar Pendant looks in the movie?

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Originally Posted by Me

To me it doesn't make sense. Firstly it should've been given to Frodo. Anyhoo...

The only conclusion we can come to with Eldarion wearing the necklace is, I think, to say that it just shows that this is indeed her son. However this just confused me because I was awear that Frodo was given the necklace, so I really didn't (and still don't) get it at all. I just think that no-matter how much P-j claims to love/know Tolkien, sometimes he misses things or think's that somethings don't matter(or won't matter if changed). Obviously you can see the confusion this causes when it does indeed matter.

Celebuial · 04-21-2005, 05:42 AM

Ok you were right, Assasin: I watched last night and it's clearly on view. Now this certainly confuses matters. How can you try to interpret something if you don't know whether it has happened or will happen or is just a vision which means nothing? I have no idea how to proceed... I think P-j has probably confused himself. He must have done if he's confused all of us so much.

Edit: What if it's supposed to show Sauron breaking Aragorns hope?

Assasin · 04-21-2005, 06:33 PM

I don't know. Sauron could have made it a part of the vision, and made Aragorn think it was real. That part of the scene did seem less "real" then the rest.

Kath · 04-22-2005, 11:15 AM

But if the vision was just a vision and it wasn't supposed to be broken why did the camera focus in on Aragorn's chest in the next scene? I agree with Celebuial's idea that Jackson confused even himself as there seems to be no logical explanation for all these scenes.

04-21-2005, 05:42 AM	#2
Celebuial Wight Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cardiff during term time/Leicester in the holl's Posts: 129	Ok you were right, Assasin: I watched last night and it's clearly on view. Now this certainly confuses matters. How can you try to interpret something if you don't know whether it has happened or will happen or is just a vision which means nothing? I have no idea how to proceed... I think P-j has probably confused himself. He must have done if he's confused all of us so much. Edit: What if it's supposed to show Sauron breaking Aragorns hope? __________________ Ú cilith ‘war. Ú men ‘war. Boe min mebi. Boe min bango. Last edited by Celebuial; 04-21-2005 at 05:46 AM. Reason: I had yet another epithany!

04-21-2005, 06:33 PM	#3
Assasin Wight Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a desert. Posts: 142	I don't know. Sauron could have made it a part of the vision, and made Aragorn think it was real. That part of the scene did seem less "real" then the rest. __________________ Death is as light as a feather, duty is as heavy as a mountain.

04-22-2005, 11:15 AM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	But if the vision was just a vision and it wasn't supposed to be broken why did the camera focus in on Aragorn's chest in the next scene? I agree with Celebuial's idea that Jackson confused even himself as there seems to be no logical explanation for all these scenes. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

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