Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves)

[Kuruharan]

Ahh...how does the saying go?

"the phantom has posted...we now have some groundings for assertions."

However, since Mithalwen was also one of the first to get it right, I'm going to wait before charging off pell mell in all directions at once.

[mormegil]

Firefoot I will respond to your defense and seeming accusations later in about 3 to 4 hours.

[mormegil]

mormegil, I do not understand your unfounded accusations of me

Unfounded you say? I believe I have presented the only credible evidence that we have available to us and you call it unfounded. I will let our intelligent community decide on that point.

Yes, Anguirel did support me, though it was by no doing of mine. Perhaps he, being a werewolf, saw that there would be some value in keeping me around, or did not perceive me as a threat.

Exactly, you weren't a threat to him and there is a great value for keeping you around. I think Anguirel was too careless in his words and you seeing this folly attempted to cover your tracks by voting him to be lynched, knowing that a near majority had been reached and by so voting you could hope to absolve yourself of a partnership with him.

If we supposed-werewolves were all in danger, would we not do our best to keep ourselves around? I thought so.

And that is what was attempted by Ang and yourself. As stated when you saw him already marching to the noose you voted for him. As you mentioned I abstained from voting and made it clear that my vote is irrelevant because majority had been reached. However, are we to think that a werewolf is above sacrificing a friend to save her own skin?

Most of your work has been accusing others.

This is in reference to me obviously and I submit that I am one of the few who is trying to look for actual evidence and solve our mystery. Our dear Saucepan Man was another. I think I have only accused one person and that would be you. With the others it was more of a question and not accusation.

I do not wish to accuse you, but as you seem bent on accusing me, I am led to believe that your only reason for doing so is that you somehow feel threatened by me.

I most definitely feel threatened by you. Much as anybody would be a werewolf.

My fellow citizens I implore you to take a look at the facts and weigh them accordingly. Firefoot has been supported by Ang. Jumped on the bandwagon to save her own wooly hide and is attempting to confuse reason and logic with naught but rubbish and lies. Now I have taken a bold stance and spoken plainly about the case and I expect in one way or another to be dead by tomorrow. I urge you to vote Firefoot and the remaining wolf will attack me tonight. If I am lynched however you will find that I am innocent and only trying to protect this town from murderers. I am willing to put my own life on the line for justice and the betterment of our society. My vote is for ++FIREFOOT

[the phantom]

Okay... I promised I would give some explanations for my suspicions, so here they are.

Mormegil-
In the first round, he listed his suspects as Ang, Fea, Firefoot, and I. It is possible that he included Ang and Fea on his guilt list to make himself look good in case they were indeed executed (which seemed likely at the time), and perhaps he rather would've seen Ff or I lynched. In the next post, Morm says that he doesn't suspect Fea any more (a retraction), he doesn't mention Ang (an omission), but he still names Ff and I as suspects. If Ang and Fea are both werewolves, it is entirely possible that Morm initially accused them to make himself look guiltless in case they were killed and took his accusations back in hopes that his werewolf pals wouldn't actually be killed. Morm never cast a vote either. Was he trying to remain unsoiled, or could he not bring himself to cast a stone at a fellow werewolf? And now, he has voted for Firefoot. To me, his anti-Firefoot reasoning is not all that solid. It is possible that he is desperately trying to find an alternative to Fea for people to vote for (assuming that Fea is the other wolf).

Primrose Bolger-
I found it odd that Prim accused the same three people (Saucy, Bilbo, and I) as Ang and Fea. Was she just going with the flow, or was she in league with them? She didn't cast a vote either. Was she not anxious to lynch anyone, or was she lying low? Also, in her last post, she gave an innocent sounding farewell to Saucy (she "did think he might be one of the werewolves"), and she also made an effort to get on my good side and suggested that we follow my plan of lynching Fea. Is she willing to cast a stone at her sister-wolf because she figures she's gone anyway? But if Prim is a wolf and the other is someone like Morm, then she's obviously only wanting to go along with me because it would result in killing an innocent Fea.

Firefoot-
She hasn't done much to gain my attention and she also voted to kill a werewolf. Perhaps she thought that it was a done deal and that she would cast a vote to make her look innocent, but that doesn't seem right somehow. She went along with it too easily.

Oddwen-
Oddwen's immediate vote for Firefoot might be suspicious to some, but the way it was written and when it was cast... I think Odd was just having a spot of fun (Odd later took the vote back). Oddwen hasn't posted much either, and didn't vote. I can't completely rule Oddwen out as perhaps a werewolf trying to lay low, but I don't think that's right.

Fea-
As I pointed out on day one, Fea and Ang seemed to be working together, and Ang was proven to be a monster. This places Fea firmly as the number one hanging candidate. If she is not a werewolf, the wolves for sure wouldn't kill her since she takes suspicion off of them onto her own shoulders, but does that somehow cancel out her incriminating behavior?

Bilbo-
From the beginning Bilbo generally seemed to be thinking along the same lines as me, and when the voting was still up in the air (between Ang and Saucy), Bilbo voted to lynch the true werewolf. Of course, it is technically possible that Bilbo is a wolf, but I seriously doubt it.

Kuru-
Kuru has remained calm and level headed, but is this simply a ploy? During Day 1, he voted for Anguirel, but only when one more vote was required (in other words, Ang's demise was already inevitable). Perhaps Kuru thought that if he got in a quick anti-wolf vote that it would get people's eyes off of him. The only person he really implicated during day one was Fea. He was willing to go along with the "kill Ang, then kill Fea" plan, but perhaps only because Ang was going to die anyway and he knew that Fea was an innocent townsperson. So I definitely can't rule Kuru out- I know he's smart enough to pull one over on us- but for now I would lynch others before Kuru.

Mith-
Mith made good points and was the second to vote for Anguirel. That was a risky strategy for a werewolf. At that point in the game, the innocent Saucy was on his way to the chopper. Mith is perhaps the most innocent in my mind (next to myself, of course).

the phantom-
Fea's assertion that I am guilty lies somewhere between improbable and impossible. I was the first to vote for Anguirel. When the voting was still undecided, I made this anti-Anguirel post, which was quickly followed by a torrent of votes and Anguirel's hanging.

Also, Fea is the last person who should accuse me. Ang and Fea were both in the same boat on day 1. Had I desired, I easily could have switched their places in my posts and said "today hang Fea, tomorrow hang Anguirel". Now- if I am really a wolf and Fea is truly innocent, why in the world would I have passed up a free opportunity to kill an innocent person- a free pass for all three werewolves to move into the next round? Not to mention that if Fea was hung and found out to be a common person, much of the blame placed on Anguirel would then be lifted, which would definitely be good for the wolves. But instead of doing that, I lead the charge to kill my fellow wolf? No way. I'm smarter than that. There is no way that I am a wolf and Fea is innocent. It doesn't work. As a matter of fact, it is more likely that we both are werewolves (which I hope you all see as highly unlikely).

The most obvious choice is that Fea is a wolf and I am not. The second best choice is that we are both innocent. Neither of those choices include phantom=wolf.

There- I've said my piece. Now, let us see what Mith has to say.

[Firefoot]

mormegil - I see that you refuse to read my defense with an open mind. Rather, you (mis)interpreted all that I said to fit your accusation that I am a werewolf, calling my words "rubbish" and "lies." They are neither, but in light of your current stance I refuse to argue with you about my innocence for two reasons: 1) I believe I have said all that I need to prove my innocence in my first post, and 2) all that I say will merely be twisted by you into "evidence of my guilt" anyway.

That being said, I have some points to make about you. For one thing, your primary grounds of assault have been my supposed associations with Anguirel. You claim his defense of me is proof of our alliance, yet Anguirel also defended Fea, and you now claim that you believe Fea to be innocent. This, I would say, is hypocrisy. Additionally, if you are to make the claim that the defense of another person is a sign of wolvish comradery, I would point out that you are doing the very same in defending Fea. Fea, who, might I add, is the current primary suspect for being a werewolf and was also defended by Anguirel.

You are clever, mormegil, very clever. But I think you to be also hasty. You claim that you seek justice and the betterment of society, yet would not one who seeks to do just that wait and review all the evidence with an open mind?

I do not yet cast my vote, but know that you are a fair candidate, whether this time around or the next.

[mormegil]

I do not yet cast my vote, but know that you are a fair candidate, whether this time around or the next.

Oh don't worry, I know that by sticking my neck out this far I would be liable to die soon. As you point out I may die this time (lynching) or next (Werewolf killing).

My attitude toward Fea has lessened, but I don't think she is clear. One might still hold suspicions of somebody but set that aside to single out somebody he has much more suspicion of so as to more fully focus his attention.

Firefoot-
She hasn't done much to gain my attention and she also voted to kill a werewolf. Perhaps she thought that it was a done deal and that she would cast a vote to make her look innocent, but that doesn't seem right somehow. She went along with it too easily.

--Phantom

Phantom don't you think that is a perfect ploy of the guilty, to not draw too much attention to herself and yet appear that she is actively participating. She only voted for Ang when she knew that there was not saving him.

[Firefoot]

Phantom don't you think that is a perfect ploy of the guilty, to not draw too much attention to herself and yet appear that she is actively participating. She only voted for Ang when she knew that there was not saving him.

I want you to note something. The last four votes for Anguirel (SpM, bilbo_baggins, me, and Kuruharan) all happened within a half hour of each other, and not much time after phantom proposed his plan of Anguirel then Fea. I actually cross-posted with bilbo, so my vote would actually have been the fourth. I do not call this no chance to save Anguirel.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Firefoot

I want you to note something. The last four votes for Anguirel (SpM, bilbo_baggins, me, and Kuruharan) all happened within a half hour of each other, and not much time after phantom proposed his plan of Anguirel then Fea. I actually cross-posted with bilbo, so my vote would actually have been the fourth. I do not call this no chance to save Anguirel.

The difference was a matter of two minutes and it made you the 5th of 6. I don't think that is a cross post especially in looking at the short length of your post. 15 to 30 seconds to fire that off. My theory is that you were waiting to see who would post next and take the 5th vote when you knew hope was lost. Also it could give you the defense of "cross posting"

[The Barrow-Wight]

Noon has passed and night approaches, and the accusations are flying, but I want to remind everyone again of the rules. This is not an accusation of anyone, just a reminder, but if you are guilty, please refrain.

1) Only werewolves may talk in private about this game.
2) When you are dead, you are out of the game and cannot help or give comment or advice.

I know people are enthusiastic about this game, but to have it played out correctly, these two rules must be strictly followed. Violators will be barrow-wighted.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Now- if I am really a wolf and Fea is truly innocent, why in the world would I have passed up a free opportunity to kill an innocent person- a free pass for all three werewolves to move into the next round?

Sacrificing one for the good of the many, my dear friend. Because you know perfectly well that, with me as the prime suspect, suspicion is taken away, temporarily thought it may be, from almost everyone else! If you are a werewolf, than you know also that you can kill me at any time, that people aren't going to believe me anyways, that I'm probably going to get lynched. You would sacrifice Anguirel in hopes that it would raise suspicion against me even higher, which, go figure, it did! So now, no matter who I vote for, whether I'm certain they're guilty or not, nobody will believe me, except perhaps mormegil, who claims to believe me innocent. And that's another thing... why does mormegil believe me innocent when nobody else does? Is he the seer? That would be nice, because then I'd know he's not a lying, cheating werewolf (because only werewolves and the seer know who's innocent). But he's making a target of himself to remark on my innocence. Better to go with the flow and say nice, apologetic words, and cry a lot at my funeral.

The idea is, since I'm almost guaranteed to die at the hands of my fellow innocents, why waste a good midnight murdering on me? If you've got a gut instinct that you know I'll be right about my accusations (sorry again, Saucy), than you'd want people to discount my opinions. I work excellently as a good facade for the werewolves because suspicion is already there. They need not worry about being voted off. The villiagers will take me, and they will have another night to ransack our people!

And besides that, I wasn't accusing anybody. See? I even wrote it last night:

I'm am not accusing anybody...

Now,

The most obvious choice is that Fea is a wolf and I am not. The second best choice is that we are both innocent. Neither of those choices include phantom=wolf.

Oh stop that. I've already told you I'm innocent. Go ahead and kill me. I hope you all feel bad when you hear my neck snap. This is just like the Salem witch trials... You drown the suspect and if they die, sorry, we'll pray a lot for you, and if you live, you're a witch! It's kind of a backwards way of proving innocence, y'all.

Right now I'm in a quandry... I must be leaving soon, and I'm not sure if I'll be back before the day is up. So I must vote. I am all torn up about the phantom. While in my heart I want to believe that he's innocent, there are a few loose ends that just won't tie up. He knows that I wanted Saucy lynched... I said so myself. And who got killed last night?

What's a better way to keep suspicion on me than to kill the one that I wanted dead?

Hey werewolves, you should eat Saucy instead of me. I mean, you wouldn't have to go looking for something to cook him in- he's already wearing all the pans you need.

The phantom isn't ghosted. We already know that. This looks like it could be a covert way to communicate with his fellows that would draw no suspicion. After all, better to hide in the open, and all that. And besides... they did EXACTLY what the phantom suggested. It could be a coincidence... but I'm not sure.

And he told us that he's played this game before... he knows all about playing mind games. His thinking is deep, and you can't put much past him. I don't want to kill you, tp, but I don't want to die. You seem to be the leader of the let's kill Fea group, and that puts you on my bad side at the moment.

I doubt that you are the seer, since I'm innocent, and you're so eager to kill me off. A seer wouldn't try so hard to kill a plain old villager. So either you're just an outspoken villager, or you're a werewolf who's playing mind games with me and the rest.

Either way fits you so darned well, it's difficult. And that's another thing... Everybody, this is directed to you. There is a difference between being outspoken and being guilty. Remember that.

Since I have to go now, I must regretfully put forth that I believe ++the phantom is one of the bad guys. No hard feelings, ol' chum. Many apologies if I'm wrong. Seer, would you please check on this theory during the night? I only wish I had time to follow the rest of the day's discussion, but I really must be off. RL calls.

But since I doubt I'll be home when the lynching occurs, here are my last words a little in advance, if indeed you kill me:

"Ha. Ha. Ha. You were wrong, and I'm laughing at you. Yes, you. You should have believed me when I claimed my innocence, and I hope you feel incredibly guilty. Now that I'm dead, and you see that I'm innocent, I hope you kill the phantom. He's a danger to you, I think. I'm currently thumbing my nose at you all. It's been a pleasure."

If you don't kill me, bear in mind that neither will the werewolves. Why destroy something perfect when it's working so well for you?

[Mithalwen]

My thoughts are all bewildered - partly because I had it in my stupid head that there were only 2 werewolves and the knowledge that there is 3 blew holes in all my theories - some of which alas involved the late Saucepan man - I had thought the concerted attack on him might be a cunning plan.

Now I fear that the accuracy of my original analysis (kindly recognised by some of my fellow villagers) may mark me out as the next victim. Therefore I'm torn between keeping my own counsel to preserve my own skin or speaking out for the greater good of the community.

However, I must admit to a certain amount of activity on the PM front yesterday evening. Having got confused over time differences I was passing the time with an uninvolved downer while waiting to see who had been killed. Yes I am bad at numbers but I am dyspraxic, I can't help it. Since it was nothing to do with this, I didn't think to conceal my activity - and the innocent has nothing to hide. No doubt I would have taken more pains otherwise. I am going to review the evidence and give you my thoughts such as they are. I find the burden hard for to kill an innocent would be a indelible stain on the conscience. I have little reason to fear the noose at the moment but I do fear claw and tooth. Remember that logic and reason is the enemy of these beasts. they will seek to create division and suspicion, and as our numbers reduce the easier it will be to find a majority.

[Primrose Bolger]

Now that I'm dead, and you see that I'm innocent, I hope you kill the phantom. He's a danger to you, I think. I'm currently thumbing my nose at you all. It's been a pleasure. --- FotP

A pleasure killing us perhaps . . .

To my mind,

++ Feanor of the Peredhil,

acting in concert with Anguirel, and one as yet unknown beast, did do grievous hurt to 2 of my fellow villagers.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

While nothing has changed to allay my suspicions of the phantom, I feel the need to make a list much like everyone else is doing these days.

mormegil- I think mormegil is the seer. I say this because of what I've already said... he's the only one to put forth that he thinks I'm innocent. That's a danger to him, but if he knows that I'm innocent, he would try to keep me alive any how.

the phantom- either, like me, an outspoken villiager, or a werewolf that's playing mind games with us all. The latter is more to my perception of him, but really, this whole game, to me, is trying to figure out who The B-W would choose to mess with us all. Either Wighty chose the phantom because of his skills at messing with us, or he didn't choose him, for the same reason.

Primrose Bolger- suspicious only because of my lack of suspicion. How did she manage to escape my attention?

Firefoot- I'm not particularly suspicious of her. I don't think she's guilty, but I'm not sure. She has valid disagreements, and I have no reason to claim she lies.

Oddwen- the only proof against her is shady at best. She's done nothing to draw my attention, and really, I'm more likely to think her innocent than not.

Feanor of the Peredhil- Grr. Haha. Just joking. Quite obviously I'm not going to say I'm a werewolf. I understand why you all suspect me, but I do wish you would take what I say at face value. But then again, I could just be screwing with you. You never know. Which makes this so much fun. But think of what you know of me: if I was a werewolf, I'd be trying much harder to make you suspect me, just because then you would start thinking things like "Wait... no werewolf in her right mind would actually try to die" and so think me innocent and just stupid. Anyhow, I'm innocent, and that's that. No worries.

bilbo_baggins- I'm vaguely suspicious. Not so much as with the phantom, but certainly enough. I'm not even sure why. Gut instinct, really. And if you'll remember, at first I defended bilbo. My evidence was shaky, but I'm not sure if I've seen anything to really convince me one way or another.

Kuruharan- maybe a werewolf. I'm pretty suspicious, but not definitively.

Mithalwen- She's so darned logical. It's messing with my head. I think she might be another werewolf, but I'm not sure of it.

Do with my musings what you desire, but my vote remains for the phantom.