bombadils influence on our reading of the narrative - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lalwendë · 05-28-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

? I have no idea what you mean... seriously ....... I just remember as a young child asking my parents one of those questions and not getting an answer...

Well, maybe the 'appearance' of the Giant is meant to impress people, and so make them fall into following whatever ways those who painted him were following? That is, as long as he was not a later medieval crude 'joke'...

Mithalwen · 05-28-2005, 11:54 AM

I suspect the joke ..... well he always makes me laugh....as does
the idea of people ... err trying his power - and he is sometimes put to good use for World Aids Day.. They are strange in Dorset you know..... and have a strange sense of humour ..

cookieman · 05-28-2005, 03:15 PM

I'm not saying that Bombadil was Aule, but he may have been to Aule as Osse was to Ulmo. (Just a possibility.)

Kuruharan · 05-28-2005, 03:55 PM

Hmm...I thought the prevailing theory was that Sauron filled that role.

Larien Telemnar · 05-28-2005, 04:20 PM

I always thought Tom should have gone with the Hobbits, he would've sure made the journey a whole lot lighthearted for my furry-footed kinsmen!

Bêthberry · 11-16-2005, 07:45 AM

It is almost inevitable that any discussion of Bombadil turns into a 'who is he?' topic, but I think it is valuable to recall lmp's point here that the hobbits require and acquire important maturing experiences as they move from their beloved Shire to the outside world--or at least Frodo.

The movie Bree section was much darker than the book Bree section--Prancing Pony--specifically because the hobbits had not yet seriously realised any possibility that this quest ring thing would be dangerous. I supposedthat is a more glamerous and exciting entrance for Strider/Aragorn, but at the same time it represented a far more abrupt jump between the safe and happy, warm and cozy opening and the journey itself. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but we do lose an aspect of understanding the Shire.

It is interesting that Jackson in fact removed both Bombadil and the Scouring. Tolkien's interest in the changes to Middle earth clearly were to Jackson less interesting than the action aspect of the adventure.

05-28-2005, 11:54 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I suspect the joke ..... well he always makes me laugh....as does the idea of people ... err trying his power - and he is sometimes put to good use for World Aids Day.. They are strange in Dorset you know..... and have a strange sense of humour .. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

05-28-2005, 03:15 PM	#3
cookieman Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	I'm not saying that Bombadil was Aule, but he may have been to Aule as Osse was to Ulmo. (Just a possibility.) Last edited by cookieman; 05-28-2005 at 11:46 PM.

05-28-2005, 03:55 PM	#4
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Hmm...I thought the prevailing theory was that Sauron filled that role. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

05-28-2005, 04:20 PM	#5
Larien Telemnar Wight Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frogmorton, The Shire, Middle-Earth Posts: 110	I always thought Tom should have gone with the Hobbits, he would've sure made the journey a whole lot lighthearted for my furry-footed kinsmen! __________________ Oh look! It's a Blog!! What's it do? Pushes button Hammer zings out SPLAT! Flat Hobbit Oh! So that's what it does! Moan

11-16-2005, 07:45 AM	#6
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	It is almost inevitable that any discussion of Bombadil turns into a 'who is he?' topic, but I think it is valuable to recall lmp's point here that the hobbits require and acquire important maturing experiences as they move from their beloved Shire to the outside world--or at least Frodo. The movie Bree section was much darker than the book Bree section--Prancing Pony--specifically because the hobbits had not yet seriously realised any possibility that this quest ring thing would be dangerous. I supposedthat is a more glamerous and exciting entrance for Strider/Aragorn, but at the same time it represented a far more abrupt jump between the safe and happy, warm and cozy opening and the journey itself. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but we do lose an aspect of understanding the Shire. It is interesting that Jackson in fact removed both Bombadil and the Scouring. Tolkien's interest in the changes to Middle earth clearly were to Jackson less interesting than the action aspect of the adventure. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

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