Aman, Paradise for Elves, Hell for Men - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Orofacion of the Vanyar · 07-03-2002, 04:00 PM

Well I see two possiblities.

One - A paradise because they would be free from the influence of Morgoth, Sauron, or any other evil. True this wasn't the case for the Noldor, but Melkor was loose then. If man is informed that death is his gift, then all is well.

Two - This sounds very similar to the Fall of Numenor, man's jealousy over the immortals. Man would cause much woe, and they would be exiled from Aman.

I would like to think that the former would be the case if man was allowed into Aman. The whole reason why Numenor fell was man's ingorance due to a lack of direct elven influence. Look at the Edain in Beleriand. They lived side by side with the elves and they cared little about their death, accepting it instead of trying to prolong it. I believe with proper influence and teaching by both elves and ainur, then men could live in Aman peacefully with little or no harm.

But then again, I'm a optimist.

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07-03-2002, 04:00 PM	#1
Orofacion of the Vanyar Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Clayton, NC Posts: 102	Well I see two possiblities. One - A paradise because they would be free from the influence of Morgoth, Sauron, or any other evil. True this wasn't the case for the Noldor, but Melkor was loose then. If man is informed that death is his gift, then all is well. Two - This sounds very similar to the Fall of Numenor, man's jealousy over the immortals. Man would cause much woe, and they would be exiled from Aman. I would like to think that the former would be the case if man was allowed into Aman. The whole reason why Numenor fell was man's ingorance due to a lack of direct elven influence. Look at the Edain in Beleriand. They lived side by side with the elves and they cared little about their death, accepting it instead of trying to prolong it. I believe with proper influence and teaching by both elves and ainur, then men could live in Aman peacefully with little or no harm. But then again, I'm a optimist.