Werewolf VI (the saga continues in a rather continuous way)

[mormegil]

Kath in many ways the Hunter can be more of a liability at this stage especially. I clearly said I do not want them killed but the Seer and Ranger are far more important to our survivability. I explained my lumping TGWBS and Oromin earlier but his reactions gave me some insight.

[the guy who be short]

Holbytlass, LMP did not say that the Seer should remain utterly silent. He simply meant "don't openly declare youself," I believe.

I re-iterate: I only defended Oro due to the odds. There is a 50% chance of her being gifted, as compared to a 25% chance of her being a wolf.

Eomer, be reassured. I have not yet classed anybody as a wolf. Though interrogation must be performed...

[mormegil]

One warning I would like to give, is that I want some substance on a daily basis from everybody. They don't need to be loud and obnoxious like me but a minimum of one post a day of something more than one sentence. I feel that being too quiet doesn't contribute at all and wolves are able to hide very easily among quiet villagers.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning when I should be able to name and shame at least two werewolves. And you should all trust me, for the King hisself has invited me to perform music at his palace not three weeks from today; and as we should all realise, accomplices of royalty are of the utmost integrity.

tgwbs, you are completely correct: everyone must be interrogated. So: what were you doing last night? (<- detective hat) I heard from one of my reliable sources (the friendly bluebird) that you were out for a gander late at night. A bit unusual, yes? Let him speak! I hope you were only nightswimming m'boy; I'd hate to have to hang you.

Nilp and that Lhunatic have different sleeping habits from most of us; the perfect alibi to escape mob interrogation. A bit....too perfect if you ask me. Yes, interesting, verily. A bit.....too interesting if you ask me.

Yes... *strokes chin*

I'd like to hear more from Lionel Hutz, uh...I mean, Saurreg, but I guess we'll have to wait until the morn for that, he living away on the East side of town.

[Holbytlass]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning when I should be able to name and shame at least two werewolves. And you should all trust me,

Does anyone else find this odd? It does intrigue me to hear what he has to say, but isn't this a bit forward in saying he is the seer? A seer has dreams, not advance knowledge of who they are going to dream about.
Either Eomer is trying to lure the wolves after him tonight and not a gifted villager, a noble thing to do or he is trying to get the ranger to protect him so that while the ranger is busy protecting him, he and his wily pack can kill off any one they choose.

[Firefoot]

OR Eomer is one of the Shirriffs, and our Shirriffs have agreed that it is in the best interest of the village for us to know who they are, telling us of two known innocents. Then the wolves would have a choice: kill a known innocent who we will not be lynching, leaving alone the Seer and Ranger, or make an attempt to kill the Seer or Ranger, leaving us with two known innocents who we won't lynch.

[the guy who be short]

Originally Posted by Holby

Does anyone else find this odd? It does intrigue me to hear what he has to say, but isn't this a bit forward in saying he is the seer?

I'm not so sure he's saying he's the Seer. I think he's using his conker for a bit of deduction. Though you can't really tell.

[Holbytlass]

It's my turn to try and figure out what you, Firefoot, are trying to say. I'm dense like that, too. For the life of me, I can't see where you got him trying to be a shirriff but I do get the shirrif plan though.
Well, Eomer's conker is usually pretty good though, but he's being rather weird about it.

[Holbytlass]

Originally Posted by the guy who be short

Holbytlass, LMP did not say that the Seer should remain utterly silent. He simply meant "don't openly declare youself," I believe.

OH, DUH!!

One thing that won't work for us if the 3 ungifted villagers are lynched right of way, there is less people for the wolves to figure out who might be who, since the 3 wolves know who they are then we've taken out 3 ordinary villagers that just leaves 6 people for the wolves to study the posts making it easier for them to figure out.

[Firefoot]

But, Holbytlass, if we can't lynch a wolf, wouldn't it be better to lynch an ungifted villager than a gifted one? It would definitely be very bad to lose our Seer or Ranger; we want the hunter alive until they're sure of someone's guilt; the Shirriffs, while I wouldn't say that they're as important as the other three, are certainly more useful than the regular innocents; the Mytho could go either way, depending on what role s/he takes on. If we don't catch a wolf, I would certainly rather that we take an ordinary villager.

[the guy who be short]

Originally Posted by Eomer

tgwbs, you are completely correct: everyone must be interrogated. So: what were you doing last night? (<- detective hat) I heard from one of my reliable sources (the friendly bluebird) that you were out for a gander late at night. A bit unusual, yes? Let him speak! I hope you were only nightswimming m'boy; I'd hate to have to hang you.

I was indeed out for a gander, and I will not deny it. Who can deny the palates of the stomach? The gander was delicious, I assure you, served by a master chef at a nearby village. I could eat an entire family of geese served up by him.

Now, I'll not deny that my night-time gander is an odd habit, but it's perfectly safe, I assure you. No lycanthropy for me. I was too stuffed full of goose to eat an innocent lass like Feanor.

[Holbytlass]

Firefoot, that's perfectly true, however, the importance of the ordinary villager is to cover the gifted by sheer numbers. We just don't have enough in this village. Sure we could just lynch ordinary innocents for the first two days (definitely better than the gifted) but that doesn't leave much cover for the gifted and the seer has a good enough chance of being killed the third night or maybe one night more due to the wolves figuring out who is who.
Unless, the seer wants to proclaim themselves on the third night, the ranger protect them that night and we would have 3 dreams and 2 lynches prooving peoples innocence thus narrowing down who the wolves are (assuming the seer didn't dream of a wolf). I realize this has as many holes as swiss cheese, the ranger might have happened to guard the seer the night before and therefore couldn't do it again, or the people the seer dreamt about might be the ones we've already lynched. Anyway, those are my thoughts.

[littlemanpoet]

So ya don't like me plan? Big deal. See if I care.

spits

Yer all women in trousers anyways.

Now Eomer I don' like you as playin' so many games wit' me head. Wut is you? King's messenger? You dress the fop enough fer it.

scratches hisself then picks up a stick, pricks his thumb and starts making marks on his hand

I'm trackin' what all you say, so watch it. See?

raises hand for all to see scratches on palm made with own blood but nobody wants to get close to take a look because the stench is unbearable

All right, who's gonna help me carry these pieces of the by gone moddess goddess off to where she ain't such a wrong kind of sight? Don' all step forward at once.

By the by, it's way stinkin' too early to tell anything about anybody yet. 'Ceptin' Eomer's a fop, Morm's a loudmouth, guy's ana - um - ana - um - smart, Holby's tryin' to figger out which way is up, Firefoot looks clean as I'm filthy, and Oro's against random picking. I'm aginst it too. You know my plan. I won' keep harpin' it. Random's stoopid though.

[the guy who be short]

LMP, my good, er, man... please address these parts of your plan:

1) We can't look at voting records to deduce wolves.
2) We eliminate that small chance of getting a wolf.
3) Gifted Villies will die anyway. At night, it is almost certain. At Day, well, we'd run out eventually.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by the guy who be short

LMP, my good, er, man... please address these parts of your plan:

1) We can't look at voting records to deduce wolves.
2) We eliminate that small chance of getting a wolf.
3) Gifted Villies will die anyway. At night, it is almost certain. At Day, well, we'd run out eventually.

bad sectors on computer. NO persona. must post fast. 1 no matter. 2 is negligible. 3 is held at bay by lynching innocents for at least first 2 days. Hope this takes. May not be able to post until tomorrow morning ealry. GRRRRR!

[mormegil]

I guess before we continue pushing forward the plan to kill innocent volunteers I would like to know besides LMP is there anybody out there that is somewhat in favor of it? If it comes down to many people supporting the plan I wil consider supporting it too.

[Saurreg]

Eomer
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: First to post. Offers nothing substantial. Claims to know two innocents. Could be a talented character (but how can he account for two - sheriff?) or a sly lycan throwing in his gambit.

Firefoot
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Logical rejoinder and counter-suggestion to TGWBS's aborted plan. Thinks Eomer might be a sheriff. Questions Mormegil's suspicions. Not much to work with.

Gil-Galad
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Single short non-substantial post. Does not answer to Mormegil's punt. Interesting...

Holbytlass
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Read to much into the mod's 1st post. Offers nothing substantial,sShe agrees immediate to TGWBS' plan without batting an eyelid, when everybody has yet to endorse. Worth taking a closer look.

Kath
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Angst induced rambling (apparant). Nothing to work with. A lycan testing the waters?

littlemanpoet
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Wants volunteer lynching of three innocents. Wants Seer to remain highly inconspicous (read - ineffective). Very bizzare. To be observed closely. Highest suspect yet.

Lhuna
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: No posts. Nothing to work on.

Nilpaurion Felagund
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: No posts. Nothing to woek on. Strangely enough, his absence is vouched by Mormegil. In cahoots? Sherriffs or lycans?

Orominuialwen
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Insubstantial post. Nothing to work with.

the guy who be short
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Most vocal. Suggested an aborted scheme. Suspects nobody yet but homs in on Hoby and Lhun for unknown reason. Rivalry forming between him and morm.

Mormegil
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Suggested a less than perfect scheme that might end in random senseless lynch (what for?). Singles out TGWBS and Oro (why?) out of no where and then thinks TGWBs si innocent. Highly erratic post behaviour. The delivery of that post contradicts its meaning. A lycan?


Werewolf behaviour to note:

1. Unless they have access problems, they will monitor the development of events very closely and try to swerve opinion by direct intervention.

2. They will not usually bandwagon outright to avoid suspicion. However they might be tempted to try so as a gambit (last resort), as a bluff call.

3. Good lycan players throw red herrings and create confusion. This is done by active post direction with sensational contents.

Eomer I so happen to watch the Simpsons and I know what Lionel Hutz is. If that is your plot to bait me into a flame and get me into trouble with forum authorities simply because of our run-in in the last game, you will not succeed. That meaningless sentence only serves to show how petty and shallow you are in person.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Saurreg

Eomer
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: First to post. Offers nothing substantial. Claims to know two innocents. Could be a talented character (but how can he account for two - sheriff?) or a sly lycan throwing in his gambit.

littlemanpoet
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Wants volunteer lynching of three innocents. Wants Seer to remain highly inconspicous (read - ineffective). Very bizzare. To be observed closely. Highest suspect yet.

I quoted these two (see? written in blood right here) ---produces forearm--- because I think Saur's onto something in the first one, an' I'll defend myself regarding the second. Second first: I'm not even going to say whether I'm innocent or a werewolf. Figure it out for yourselves. That's your problem. I know what I am and I'll do what I can, but the lot o' you don't trust me no how so it don't much matter. The Seer shuttin' up about bein' the Seer potentially saves the Seer's life so that said Seer can be useful toward the end game when Seer is most effective. Yes I know it involves the risk of losing the Seer if the wolves get lucky, but I still think it's worth that risk because if the Seer shuts up about being seer early, the only way the wolves will get Seer is if they're lucky. Get it? Fart for brains?

Saur, yer attempt at ana - ana - um - bein' smart says ta me that yer either innocent or a wolf playin' poker face. We'll see. I'm leanin' toward innocent, but that c'ld change.

About Eomer. Actin' way too silly. He better out with his theories now before votes or I'm votin' fer him. An' if he votes fer me, fine. I'd expect it from a fop.

About Gilly: I think you guys are rushin' t' the kill on shoddy grounds. So he says next to nothin' worthwhile in one post. It don't mean nuthin one way or the other. Yer just usin' it as an excuse not to think harder. Too bad fer you. Wasted vote.

Guy, I get it finally on yer #1 point above. If we all vote for the same ungifted innocent, THEN we can't tell werewolf voting patterns whereas if everybody votes to their thinking, werewolf thinking can maybe be found out. Okay. That was the weaker part of my plan. The big part is seer, stay shut up until you have sumthin worth talkin' about like a wolf or two.

Eomer, you got a little while to defend yerself.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

What's a fop? If you're commenting on my rather superb attire then I must say Guilty as charged. If the werewolves have any class then they'll leave such a prim and proper gentleman such as myself well alone.

*sniff*

*adjusts hat*

Firefoot, we can lynch a wolf. Let's stop all this talk of killing our own.

tgwbs, interesting habit you have there. Goose is quite superb when you can get it.

I'll speak to you all later.

[Firefoot]

Firefoot, we can lynch a wolf. Let's stop all this talk of killing our own.

Oh, I know. I am totally against deliberately killing an innocent.

I didn't realize that what Holbytlass was doing was arguing against the deliberate killing of innocents. I couldn't figure out what she was trying to say. Now that I realize that, I agree with your thoughts, Holby.

See, I'm dense like that. If you don't put quotes up for what you're responding to, like as not I'll read it as a stand alone theory. That's twice in one day now that I've done that. Oh dear. I promise, I'll read more carefully from now on.

I think our best bet for today is for everyone to vote for who they think is guilty. That way, everyone won't be voting for the same person, and that voting will leave evidence that we can make some sense out of.

[the guy who be short]

Originally Posted by Firefoot

I think our best bet for today is for everyone to vote for who they think is guilty. That way, everyone won't be voting for the same person, and that voting will leave evidence that we can make some sense out of.

While I agree with the plan due to the latter point, remember that the wolves have the ability to influence the vote. I'm betting on an innocent death toDay.

[Lhunardawen]

Just a thought...by lynching an innocent during the Day, don't we increase the chance of the werewolves killing a gifted by Night?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Just a thought...by lynching an innocent during the Day, don't we increase the chance of the werewolves killing a gifted by Night?

Yes but only slightly. But similar logic states that by killing a wolf we are less likely next time. We have a 50/50 chance of killing somebody in the gifted category and somebody in the innocent/wolf category (3 of each)

[Lhunardawen]

It's highly probable that I won't get to post later tonight, so I'll have to cast my vote:

++Gil-galad

Dejá vû, eh?