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Old 07-14-2005, 09:16 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by the guy who be short
I sort of made a logical leap that Eomer would presume the innocent was me due to my plan, and I was right. Even if that weren't the case, I know Eomer is very clever, so I simply presumed he would try to apply logic to the situation.
Contradict yourself here. Eomer's posts only brought about more suspicion against himself and ultimately his doom. If that was the use of intelligence and logic, it is very poor practice indeed. I cannot tell why you would think that ploy of his as smart.

1. It was a gamble, not a risk.
2. The contents of his post incredible
3. He chose to be mysterous and thus suspicious to all

The only reason why I think you are such a rabid supporter is because he vouched for your innocence and hence you feel obliged to clear his name.

As mentioned in my post, I wanted to wait for you to clear that enigmatic post of yours but you came in too late for reasons I do not know of. And as I have posted in my analysis, Eomer was the most perculiar and his strategy most bizzare. This led me to believe very strongly that he could be a werewolf throwing in a big gambit. A make or break move I should say. RL pressed and I had to vote and hence as the biggest suspect (bigger than LMP was time flowed), I had no choice but to vote for him based on deduction. And in anycase I was the second to vote for him and I believe my reason for doing is so is far better than LMP's. If the rest of the people did not agree with the points as posted above, they would not have followed suit either.

EDIT: If my post wasn't clear last night, then it could be because it is late and Im' tired and when i'm tired my understanding and ability to communicate in English diminishes... Kinda like that misleading post in my first game.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:34 PM   #2
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I've noticed that nobody has commented on my "rookie werewolf" theory, of posting on a Werewolf thread during a Night phase. Anybody have any thoughts on that?
I don't know that it's anything conclusive... it could just as easily be a "rookie innocent" mistake. I hear what you're saying, though.

I'm off to bed now too... I won't back for about 8 hours, but I will be back in time to get my thoughts together, vote, etc.
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Old 07-14-2005, 09:50 PM   #3
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The analysis

Firefoot
Voted for: Gil-galad
Posting Behaviour: Logical rejoinder and counter-suggestion to TGWBS's aborted plan. Thought Eomer might have been a sheriff. Questions Mormegil's suspicions. Post 38 easily misinterpreted. Voted for Gil-galad when majority was leaning towards Eomer. Centerist - offers nothing. Nonchalant (apathetic) attitude to Gil makes reasoning of vote reads dubious... Thinks there is a Saurreg/Holby alliance due to Saurreg's wording.

Gil-Galad
Voted for: Eomer
Posting Behaviour: Did not answer to Mormegil's punt. Vots for Eomer to save his skin. Could truly be misunderstood r a lycan blanding into the background as hard as possible. Strangely enough the fitst to tretort against TGWBS' claims. RADAR ALERT!

Holbytlass
Voted for: Eomer
Posting Behaviour: She agrees immediate to TGWBS' plan without batting an eyelid, when everybody has yet to endorse. Takes a analytical approach she voted for Eomer. wants to save the special villagers as long as possible.


ittlemanpoet
Voted for: Eomer
Posting Behaviour: Claims to be sherriff (believed by most)

Lhuna
Voted for: Gil-galad
Posting Behaviour: Insubstantial post. Votes for Gil for no apparant reason. Vote comes 11 mins immediately after Morm's. RADAR ALERT!

Nilpaurion Felagund
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Bizzare disruptive post

Orominuialwen
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Insubstantial post. Nothing to work with. Not present during voting.

the guy who be short
Voted for: firefoot
Posting Behaviour: Offers contradicting reason to post 72 contents. Claims to be sherriff. Dubious reason behind vote for firefoot.

Mormegil
Voted for: Gil-galad
Posting Behaviour: Suggested a less than perfect scheme that might end in random senseless lynch (what for?). Singles out TGWBS and Oro (why?) out of no where and then thinks TGWBs is innocent. Highly erratic post behaviour. The delivery of that post contradicts its meaning? Leads the vote against Gil that is immediately followed by Lhun. Strangely absent in current round. Interesting... Very interesting.

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Firefoot - I believe you read too much into my words. To me , could be a lycan/werewolf and take a closer look holds the same. I dunno, diff culture diff way with words? In any case I do think you are innocent as of now.

It is a pity so many players choose to remain so silent and thus we are unable to analyze their posts. At this point of time with TGWBS and LMP most probably our sheriffs and innocent, most of my suspicions fall on Gil and Lhun

In the spirit of gamesmanship I want to believe in Gil for his difficult RL problem. But the very short and immediate retort to the supposed sherriffs' claims almost immediately, seem to indicate that he was closely monitoring the game. And then poof! Nothing else. But that could also be interpreted that his father coincidentally allowed his access then. His first post is also enigmatic - he offered nothing to the game whatsoever.

Lhun is more difficult. She had a role in Gil-galad's votes and it came 11mins after morm's. The timing is suspicious and so far she has laid low and offered us nothing against us. If she was a wolf then we have only her vote to analyze. But that is too slim a lead.

Therefore I vote for

++Gil-galad

And pray my vote holds true. The rest of my suspects in order are:

1. Lhun
2. Morm
3. Holby
4. Oro
5. Nilp
6. TGWBS
7. LMP
8. Firefoot

Anyone who have not posted automatically earns an upper slot in my list.
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:07 PM   #4
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Mormegil
Voted for: Gil-galad
Posting Behaviour: Suggested a less than perfect scheme that might end in random senseless lynch (what for?). Singles out TGWBS and Oro (why?) out of no where and then thinks TGWBs is innocent. Highly erratic post behaviour. The delivery of that post contradicts its meaning? Leads the vote against Gil that is immediately followed by Lhun. Strangely absent in current round. Interesting... Very interesting.
I've posted 7 times today so I don't see that as abscent myself.

I put forward how I felt and have responded to ideas and now I am just sitting and reading what has been posted to further analyze and adjust my opinions.

I am somewhat pacified by Holbytlass' defense. I would move her to second or third on my list and bump Gil up to number 1 meaning lynch today. So my revised list is

A. Gil-Galad
B. Saurreg
C. Holbytlass
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Old 07-14-2005, 10:50 PM   #5
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And poor Kath, she would have been of great use to the village.


But I see I am suspect. From what I can read I am suspicious because:
a) I voted for Gil 11 minutes after morm did
b) My vote for Gil has no apparent reason
c) I posted nothing substantial
oh, and
d) I posted in the original thread at NIGHT

At the time of my first post it was Gil who stood out as most suspicious to me because of that totally senseless post of his. Rash it might seem of me, but it so happened that just as I was thinking about actually voting for Gil (since RL does not allow me more time online), I saw morm vote. I could not see anyone else who was worth voting for at that time so I decided to vote for Gil right before RL grabbed the computer off my hands.

I was not able to post anything of substance due to the time constraint. But now that I have thought a little about the events, I have a few questions of my own...later.

As for posting at NIGHT, it was a day when I was most free to catch up with everything else I missed on the Downs. I realized my mistake too late. lmp, I am indeed a rookie - that's not my fault. But I'm most definitely not a werewolf.

tgwbs, don't I have the right to defend myself if I am accused falsely, and through an unreliable method at that? But you have to admit the abacus is really unreliable. If I seemed extremely defensive, that was due to my theatrical mood at the time. You know, it's hard to be a Lhunatic. You just don't know what mood you'll have until it hits you right smack on the face. But thanks for telling me (indirectly) that I was being theatrical then.

Now for my query: mormegil, this might be totally irrelevant, but is there more to that Oromin example of yours in post #12 than meets the eye?

lmp: Your plan is good, but as for my list of suspects, I'll have to do more thinking. But for now I'm quite suspicious of Saurreg, Holby, Oromin, and Firefoot, in no particular order.

Last note before heeding RL call: Good job, mytho!
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