Prisoner of Númenor Planning/Discussion Thread

[Meneltarmacil]

That is kind of a problem. The only option I can really see is stowing away on one of the Faithful's ships, unless a Fell Beast was waiting to fly him off the island.

*edit*

Fell Beasts are not aircraft, though, and can presumably only fly so far without having to land and rest, so I think it's more feasable for him to stow away.

*more editing*

Actually, I noticed that I mentioned him in my bio earlier:

He (Thoronmir/Sakaladûn) ran into the strongest opposition from Herugor, the second most powerful man in Numenor and the one he suspected had been learning all kinds of evil things from Sauron. After Sakaladûn flat out refused to have anything to do with an assault on Valinor, first proposed in 3299 and actually started eleven years later, Herugor, probably following instructions from Sauron, made up a number of false accusations about Sakaladûn forming a conspiracy and taking the throne for himself. Herugor then presented these charges before the king, who fired Sakaladûn from his post and had him arrested.

Herugor was the name lmp and Elora came up with for the Mouth in a previous RPG, though as mentioned earlier on this thread the name will probably have to be changed to something less obviously evil.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

You mock me, LMP, with your whatsisyappery.

And yet it's still so doggone amusing.

[littlemanpoet]

Mock!?

I was just having fun.

Herugor is some kind of Elvish name (I made it up years ago but can't tell you whether it's Sindarin, Quenyan, or some kind of mix between the two), so it can serve as the nickname the Faithful have for this particular scoundrel. We will need to come up with a Valinorian, and/or perhaps Umbarian name for him too.

[Regin Hardhammer]

I changed the dry goods store into a pottery and hermetics store to agree with LMP's post.

What exactly is going to happen in the game now? When should we proceed and enter the dungeon with Inzillomi? Once we get it, what is the next step?

If anyone has ideas about what generally is the direction we are going, it would be appreciated, since I am somewhat unsure.

- Regin

[littlemanpoet]

Thanks, Regin. I forgot having read about dry goods in your post. Sorry about that. Um, what are hermetics, anybody know?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

There's a reason Inzillomi left it up to Azarmano... I have no clue.

I think that a Mabalar post would be good to come next, but that's not necessarily a must. Give him some time to be duly distressed that his wife is about to be killed with him. That sort of thing.

As for what we should do... we need to meet up with Soph and TB12. Are we set on coming upon them (still captured) while escaping with Mabalar? That would simplify the actual rescue some, while still allowing for all kinds of stress ("Where is my daughter?" "Um... we're not sure. Haven't seen her since we ran away.").

What say you guys to a bit of nerve-wracking? If the "guards" get "the prisoner" into the temple and run into more guards? Then perhaps Inzillomi would get tossed into a cell for awhile while Azarmano, Thoronmir, and Abarzadan have to I dunno... have a drink... or something... with actual King's Men. Wouldn't that be neat?

I just got a real deja vu thingy... The image of our "guards" getting their guards totally pasted and stealing the keys to the cells. Does it, perchance, remind you of Bilbo in Thranduil's caves? But it's got the underlying stress of knowing that you could be caught and killed any second. 'Specially Thoronmir who's pretty well known. Thoughts?

[littlemanpoet]

Okay, we can celebrate Bilbo with a theme and variation on the drunken guards' keys. Sounds good to me.

I'll try and get up a post this afternoon after work.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Hey Him, when you fill in your save, can you shift it to after my post? I had Inzi suggest a way to get rid of Abarza and Thoronmir. In the best sense, of course. T's too well-known and after all, we need to find the fastest route out of the city, so who better than scouts? If anybody objects to this line of thinking, say something (and provide a change for me) and I'll go cuddle with my beloved edit button. It should work though, to allow for A to explore the city like he wants, yes?

Edit: cross-posted with Regin. Does my idea of sending them off as scouts now, instead of pre-drinking party work to clear things up?

[Meneltarmacil]

I would actually prefer to be with Azar and Inzi, though maybe I could be doing something like hunting around for Mabalar.

Yeah, actually, I think I'll split off and try to find him if there aren't any objections. I'll try to get in a post tonight.

EDIT: I now have everybody going in search of him together, minus Abarzadan, following the part with the drunken guards.

[Regin Hardhammer]

It's obvious that something here needs to be edited. First, Inzi suggests that Abar and Thoronmir be sent off as scouts for escape roots. If Thoronmir is staying, then I think that either Inzi needs to edit her post so as to just suggest that Abar leave or Thoronmir needs to put in his post some rational as to why he does not want to go.

At the end of Inzi's post, she asks Azarmano for approval. After we get the first part of the situation sorted out, then we can deal with this. It seems strange for Azarmano to give approval after Menel's post because they are all ready continuing on the search for Mabalar. I'm not sure if Azarmano needs to approve, but if so, it should, I think, come before Menel's post.

With regards to Menel's post, I think that being told the exact spot of Malabar's cell seems too easy. Perhaps we could arrive at the designated cell only to find that he had been moved, perhaps to something like a holding cell that prisoners go immediately before sacrificing.

I'm not sure exactly how things need to be tweeked, but they do seem slightly jumbled at the moment.

[Meneltarmacil]

I was thinking that they would find Mabalar, but then Herugor would show up with a bunch of armed gaurds. Or is having everyone taken prisoner just digging this hole too deep to get out of....?

[littlemanpoet]

I shall be vacationing in England for three weeks, and will be back October 1. During that time I doubt that I will have the desire, time, or urge, or whatever, to check in here. You understand, I expect.

For that reason, I have devised a plan such that Tar Miriel is going to use the first distration available to render Mabalar unconscious for an extended period. A potion, I'm thinking. Longer lasting than Feanor's idea with Inzi. And no, I thought of this independently. Great minds think alike, they say. Think of Bombur in The Hobbit, and Frodo in the tower of Cirith Ungol. Tar Miriel will have humored Herugor, with her charms, into giving her a spider venom potion to use as she would. She will use this for Mabalar's sake, for Sauron wants his victims awake and aware, so as to enjoy their conscious agony. Mabalar unconscious, that can't happen. So the group will be forced to carry him away. (snicker) He will wake up when I get back, a little the worse for wear.

Tarik will die for the sake of the party. I think I said that, but I want to reinforce it.

Moizandu also will die for the sake of the group. But later than Tarik. I hope to write my Miriel post tomorrow (9/10).

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

So I guess that means Mabalar will just be a carry-along character until you return. *snicker*

Do we know that he's called Mabalar yet? Or are we still calling him Abarpanaru (with accents appropriately placed)?

Also, are we killing off Tarik and That Guy? Or are you?

And how are we going to find Soph and TB12's characters? It looks like we're going to have to pick them up without their consent if we mean to get the heck out of the city any time soon.

[littlemanpoet]

Feanor, I'm glad you're here to carry this as more than a cameo, considering the forced absence of some chief writers.

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

So I guess that means Mabalar will just be a carry-along character until you return. *snicker*

Hee hee! Enjoy.

Do we know that he's called Mabalar yet?

No.

Or are we still calling him Abarpanaru (with accents appropriately placed)?

Yes, sorry.

Also, are we killing off Tarik and That Guy? Or are you?

You have the option. Just remember that Tarik will prove handy as a go-between in any final dialogue between Mabalar and Miriel, which has to do with the palantir. It would be cool if Tarik sacrifices himself for the sake of the palantir's safety.

And how are we going to find Soph and TB12's characters? It looks like we're going to have to pick them up without their consent if we mean to get the heck out of the city any time soon.

The way I see it, they are already in the Temple, in danger of sacrifice. I'm about to write the Miriel thing, which will include an earthquake (it's about time for more of the signs of doom, don't you think?) which will be a good distraction point for all the stuff that needs to happen to get our group out of the immediate clutches of Sauron and Herugor.

Menel, I'm really glad you thought up having Herugor involved here. I'm loving that part of it.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Okay...our to do list in order to tie up loose ends:

• finish beat up guards
• meet back up with Abarzadan?
• meet back up with Tarik
• clean up mess a little (maybe stuff the bodies in the cell?)
• find Kathaani, Tiru, Marsillion (I think this should come before Mabalar, but that's up for debate)
• find Mabalar
• escape Sauron's dungeons
• meeting with Tar Miriel (LMP's got it covered)
• Abarzadan's city search thing (up to Himaran how and when)
• find the kariborim again (assuming we've got to search the dungeons for Tiru's, Kath's, Marsillion's, AND Mabalar's?)
• ride like heck to Romenna
• avoid getting hurt by the crazy weather patterns
• That Guy has to die, so does Tarik
• Herugor sneaks onto the boat?

What have I forgotten? Mind you, none of this is in order, but is more of a general check list. Must Mabalar and Inzi wait until perhaps being on the boat before their joyous reunion? When will he wake up, approximately, LMP?

Who is writing the part of Elendil? Or is he actually going to have one?