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Bittersweet Symphony
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise
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Here's a list of all of Kath's posts and what they contained.
DAY 1 #16 - No accusations or defenses. #19 - "No gifted villager can really hint at their role until at least one wolf is dead." #23 - Says she was actually just thinking of the Shirriffs when she wrote the above quote. #46 - Asks for clarification regarding the role of the cobbler. #68 - Suspects TGWBS because he is "far too keen to lynch people". #70 - Says TGWBS accuses without reason. Does not vote. DAY 2 #152 - Attributes her lack of vote to RL problems and not being able to get on the computer in time. #168 - Long post. Can't believe people thought Nilp was a wolf because "his act was just too obvious." Thinks Kitanna voted for Nilp out of the fear that if he really was a wolf, suspicion would be cast on her. Says she will closely watch Encai and make a decision later. Thinks innocent: Mormegil, Wilwa, Dancing Spawn, Eomer. Neutral/unsure about: Oddwen, TGWBS, Kitanna, Saurreg, Encai, TE-W, LMP, TORE. Suspicious of: Durelin, Oromin, Lhuna. Thinks that Lhuna's howling and odd behavior might be a way to hide in the open. #200 - Mentions suspicions of Oddwen, Durelin, TGWBS, and TE-W. Votes for Durelin. DAY 3 #217 - Says if Oromin were indeed the cobbler, we should not lynch her; suggests she might be a wolf in disguise. Is suspicious of Wilwa, Kitanna, and TE-W. #219 - Asks Kitanna to clarify theory regarding TE-W. #221 - Reiterates suspicion of Kitanna and TE-W. #226 - Says she "sincerely believe[s]" Kitanna is a wolf and Oromin most likely the cobbler. Thinks only one of the two Oromin named (Wilwa and Lhuna) is a wolf. Is now unsure regarding TE-W. #236 - Creates plan to lynch, in order, Kitanna, Wilwa, and TE-W. Says if one of them is innocent, Oromin should then be lynched. #240 - Disagrees with Kitanna that Oromin's absence will hurt the game. #243 - Says she would not mind changing the lynch order to Kitanna, TE-W, Wilwa. Wants everyone to agree on a plan. #259 - Says TE-W is placing blame on her to avoid getting lynched himself. Votes for Kitanna. DAY 4 #283 - Is apprehensive towards the idea of the Seer revealing him/herself. Says TE-W should be suspected before Oromin. #299 - Wants a double-lynching of TE-W and Oromin. Urges TE-W, Oromin, and Wilwa to vote for Oromin to make this possible. Votes for Oromin. DAY 5 #315 - Wants to lynch Oromin. Is no longer suspicious of Wilwa. Is "worried" about Eomer. #318 - Asks about the role of the Cursed Villager. #327 - "At the moment I would guess that the Seer does not know who the wolves are or they would have revealed themselves for the good of the village." Is suspicious of Morm. Votes for Oromin. ------------------------------------------------- So what does all this mean? Who might she have dreamed about? The first DAY she makes nothing clear to us. It would seem that she was suspicious of TGWBS, but we know he was innocent. From her posts on DAY 2, she suspects Oddwen, Durelin, TGWBS, and TE-W. All of these were innocent. DAY 3, votes for Kitanna. She may have dreamt about her. I think she dreamt about Oromin as well, since she very much wanted her dead. Also, I think she might have dreamt about me, since she said she was going to watch me closely. I don't really know who to suspect. The remaining wolf is playing it very close to the vest -- and let's not forget about the Cursed Villager! Vote wisely, O Lovelanders, lest we release another wolf among us! |
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Maundering Mage
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas
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I've given it a lot of thought and I'm not convinced of Saurreg's guilt. I truly believe Lhuna is the cobbler so, in my eyes, the most suspicious is Saurreg. The problem I have with this is a single wolf at this stage wouldn't be acting this way. Because if he was successful in lynching me and he kills one more tonight he will be killed in the day and the village wins. I think, now, that he may simply be a misguided innocent.
If that's the case do I want to lynch Eomer? I don't know. Does anybody else have any feelings or ideas on this? Also we have yet to hear from Wilwa and Lhuna. I would like to hear from Wilwa because I believe her innocent and therefore has a more valueable opinion than the others. I think I will see about rereading Eomer and seeing what I can find.
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Maundering Mage
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas
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Okay I've now reread all of Eomer's post and I think him to be either completely innocent or the greatest double bluffing wolf of all time. For Eomer to be a wolf he would have had to had Kitanna and Oromin agree that he can lead the charge in lynching them and that's a major piece that's holding me back from him.
I'll wait till morning but I may vote Saurreg.
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Hauntress of the Havens
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: IN it, but not OF it
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Oh dear...I knew it! I knew Kath was the Seer! And alas *hic* it is as I thought it would *hic* be - she died without so much as explicitly *hic* revealing *hic* something substantial *hic*. What shall *hic* happen to Loveland *hic* now?
To be honest, I was so surprised to find that Oromin was indeed a werewolf *hic*. I was very confident that she was merely *hic* the cobbler *hic* playing *hic* her role *hic* the way it is supposed to be played *hic*. Whatever her idea was in getting herself *hic* lynched *hic* like *hic* that, I sure am glad *hic* she cannot terrorize the village *hic* any longer *hic*. That brings me to believe *hic* that she might have had an agreement with her fellow lycan *hic* to lynch *hic* her so as to throw the trail *hic* off the remaining wolf *hic*. With that said, I suggest we look *hic* very closely *hic* at those who were so eager to get her lynched *hic*. Quote:
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I do not know to what extent I have to convince you that I am as ordinary as ordinary can be. If you see it fitting to lynch *hic* me, have it your way. But I tell *hic* you, if you do, all *hic* of you will *hic* be buried in guilt *hic* and shame - save one, who will *hic* merely *hic* pretend to do so but deep inside is laughing *hic* its heart out at your gullibility *hic*. *gasps* I want you all *hic* to take a good, long *hic* look *hic* at this: Quote:
I cannot delay *hic* any longer *hic*, but I will *hic* take a few minutes to think about my (possibly *hic*) last *hic* vote. Needless *hic* to say, I am choosing among Eomer, Estel *hic*, and Enca, the last *hic* just because of that suspicious statement. Last edited by Lhunardawen; 08-05-2005 at 01:36 AM. Reason: a little *hic* hard to read |
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Hauntress of the Havens
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: IN it, but not OF it
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Oh...my pounding head...
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 4,859
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Something you failed to mention Enca?
#327 - Kath admits that her suspicions of Eomer have no basis. This seems to clear me from Lhuna's later accusations. She says that maybe the Seer wasn't so subtle; maybe she did catch wolf-Eomer! Well, if she did then why did she retract her suspicions of me? I believe the suspicion and the retraction happened in the same day. I doubt that Kath had the opportunity to dream about me and for that I curse the Wolf's timing; if he/she had left it another day then I'm sure Kath would have dreamt of me and I would have been cleared. It's pretty obvious that Kath did not dream about me, because that information would contradict her flip-flopping over me on the same day. Lhunardawen is being ridiculous. Her accusations against me make little sense. Of course (and this goes for Mormegil as well) I could be a stunningly awesome wolf by helping to kill my fellow wolves, but don't any of you (especially Lhuna) think that that's stretching things just a little bit? I'll say it again because apparently amazingly good evidence counts for little in Loveland: -I was one of the first to forcefully attack Kitanna. -I was the one who pointed out again and again that the clever option was to kill Oromin (and lo and behold! it turned out to be a good idea) -I attacked those who supported me (Fea, lmp), suicide for a wolf. What is so hard about this? Why can't you see? I am clearly not a wolf. Stop voting for me. Right now, I am suspicious of Morm, Saurreg, Lhuna, maybe even Estel and Enca. I'm fairly certain of wilwarin's innocence. As of right now, I have no idea where my vote is going.
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Dear laddie, how in loveland can yer suspect me after all dat me posted?
I would like to hear from yer too.
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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Actually, Saurreg is right to question. I think I posted my suspicion list in a careless manner. I should never have bothered with a list; I don't even like them.
Saurreg has done nothing to make me suspicious of him Likewise, Enca is probably innocent. I just spoke against her because of her comprehensive, yet still selective, collection of Kath's musings, which seemed pretty unfair to me. It's Mormegil after Lhuna for me. To him it must be quite scary but to me Saurreg's reasoning seems fair. I was worried by Morm's rather arbitrary suspicion lists earlier on in the thread. Now that I think about it, TORE is a big fan of these lists too... But Mormegil's 'stirring of the pot' (as Saurreg put it) has been evident, wolvish or no, and his suspicion of me has, like I say, no basis whatsoever. Because I am sure that Lhuna is the cobbler, I am leaning toward voting for Mormegil. But I can wait.
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