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Old 08-08-2005, 12:25 PM   #1
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Indeed, I have researched this very subject. I have found that the hatred stems from an early encounter by colonists with several savage Wargs. This has evolved over the years into a total hatred of Wargs by the entire population. A very sad misunderstanding indeed.
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:06 PM   #2
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The world, as said by a few people enlightened enough to know the truth, is Varsur's Ring. Truly, Varsur, the great dark Warg, must have exerted his influence much on this PJ character, enabling the seeds of Warg-corruption to grow in his uneducated mind.

Alas, if we only have enlightened him soon enough . . . who knows what praise the world will give to the Wargs? Who knows what peace shall wrap a world in awe of the majesty of Wargs?

But it is not fated to be so, for Varsur still lives.
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Old 08-09-2005, 08:12 AM   #3
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Terrifying.

Here's another thing which annoys me: How come Wargs are only deemed to be the carriers of Orcs? Did the film-makers ever read The Hobbit? Wargs are, as we all know, far mightier than Orcs. It is true that, when Wargs and Orcs make alliances, the Wargs will carry the Orcs to battle for the purposes of haste. But Wargs are not horses. And the comparison is a deep insult.

Could horses move the very lands and the oceans? Could horses master every tongue in Arda? Could horses defeat a team of Elves on University Challenge? I think not.

Wargs are not pawns to the Orc (they are not even pawns to the Duck, Samwise). Yet that is how they have been presented.
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:28 AM   #4
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Terrifying.

Here's another thing which annoys me: How come Wargs are only deemed to be the carriers of Orcs? Did the film-makers ever read The Hobbit? Wargs are, as we all know, far mightier than Orcs. It is true that, when Wargs and Orcs make alliances, the Wargs will carry the Orcs to battle for the purposes of haste. But Wargs are not horses. And the comparison is a deep insult.

Could horses move the very lands and the oceans? Could horses master every tongue in Arda? Could horses defeat a team of Elves on University Challenge? I think not.

Wargs are not pawns to the Orc (they are not even pawns to the Duck, Samwise). Yet that is how they have been presented.
Well, we both know Orcs are down-right dirty liars. In my opinion, it is most likely that the orcs allowed this lie to penetrate deep into everything Warg, which has now tainted the minds of so many with the deception that Wargs are inferior. The only way to cleanse this is through many, many seminars on "Wargs: The Glorious Truth".
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:11 AM   #5
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The only way to cleanse this is through many, many seminars on "Wargs: The Glorious Truth".
Is is appropriate to suggest that such edification begin with the creation of a wargish language so that then we may see wargs face to face. Just consider all the expressions of foul Speech which darken our current glasses.

First, the frightfully unfair designation of a warg as a liar. "Never cry warg" they say. Well, to them I say, "Your pants are on fire."

And then there is that noxious saying, "A warg in sheep's clothing." I tell you, what need would a warg have of sheepskin given his own glorious coat?

And confusing wargs with pigs! Since when is it correct to tell children to refrain from 'warging it down'?

I wonder if it might be well to begin with a seminar on metawargs and similorcs. Until people understand the true applicability of wargs, we will face such outrageous allegories as these expressions contain. Why, it is a veritable Tower of Babelorc that must be overcome so that people stop discriminating so unfairly against the wargs of Babylon. Yea, we all await the great wargsuntide.

I humbly suggest you create a reading list for such a series of seminars, beginning with a book by one Fairhe Mowarg, Never Cry Warg wherein he learned one summer to live among the wargs and endeavoured to dispel many wrongful assumptions.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:11 PM   #6
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You're wrong, Eomer, we're all pawns to the duck.

These seminars do certainly sound like a beneficial way to spend time. I think we need some discussion of Warg literature, also. Too often we concentrate on what we mere mortals have said about Wargs, when we would surely be better learning from the very mouths and pens of our heroes.
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Old 08-10-2005, 07:24 AM   #7
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We certainly are Samwise but the Wargs are not. No duck is that powerful. And there is a sentence which could incur great wrath.

As for teachings by Wargs, we have our ancestors to thank for the mess we find ourselves in. Long ago the Wargs gave Men gifts the likes of which we have ne'er before or after seen, yet we mocked them and spat on them, foolishly thinking that we were superior. Well, we have paid dearly. I was reading about scientists who were claiming that the human race does not get more intelligent, that there are and will always be people of low intelligence among us. One Chilean Warg enthusiast was murdered the week before the study's results were revealed. Now, it seems clear to me that this is a warning to those who would dare to expose the cover-up, that the reason for the poorness of Men is not to do with genetics, but rather to do with the scorn directed toward the grace of the Wargs.

For so Eru had proclaimed: "Let all ye Men know that the Wargs shall be thy guide." (Book of Lost Tails, p46.)
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