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View Poll Results: Do balrogs have wings?
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:19 PM   #1
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I have thought of an interesting idea....maybe wings on balrogs are gender specific Like most birds are colored differently depending if they are male or female and such

Maybe female balrogs have wings while males don't or vice versa??
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:31 PM   #2
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I have thought of an interesting idea....maybe wings on balrogs are gender specific Like most birds are colored differently depending if they are male or female and such

Maybe female balrogs have wings while males don't or vice versa??
Were there even any female Balrogs??
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:33 PM   #3
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I dunno but who's to say they don't really get too gender specific when it comes to beasts

Edit:So now we'll argue whether or not there were female balrogs instead of if they had wings
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:57 PM   #4
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Balrogs are Maiar...

I was going to leave the reply there, until I realised I'd be invading Burra's position.

Anywho, the Ainur didn't have genders in the way we know them, if I recall correctly. They simply took genders in Arda because they were mirroring the Children.

This isn't 100%. I recall something like this in the Silm, but it's oh, 10 paces away. Can't be bothered with that now, can we?
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:59 PM   #5
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Balrogs are Maiar...

I was going to leave the reply there, until I realised I'd be invading Burra's position.

Anywho, the Ainur didn't have genders in the way we know them, if I recall correctly. They simply took genders in Arda because they were mirroring the Children.

This isn't 100%. I recall something like this in the Silm, but it's oh, 10 paces away. Can't be bothered with that now, can we?
Tahat's right they took shapes so dosnt that mean some could be form with wings and some without?

my evidence is the fact that radagast gandalf and saruman dont look exactly the same and they too were maiar
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Old 08-18-2005, 03:21 PM   #6
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my evidence is the fact that radagast gandalf and saruman dont look exactly the same and they too were maiar
That logic makes no sense. Horses are animals and they're different from birds, that are also animals, and although two horses are never going to look exactly alike, no horse will ever have wings (like a bird). Of course those three wizards looked different than eachother!

I vote that Balrogs do not have wings. I only have the LotR to draw from because I've not read any of the other books all the way through and haven't read about any other Balrogs... Be that as it may, in the LotR, it says:

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His enemy halted again, facing him, and the shadow about it reached out like two vast wings.
Okay, guys, in that second part of the sentence (and the shadow about it reached out like two vast wings) what's the subject? The shadow is the subject. Not wings. The Shadow is compared to Wings, but the Shadow is not Wings. Tolkien was an English Teacher, he studied the language, he taught it, and he was an awesome writer - he's not going to write something like that and want it to mean that the Balrog had wings and go off and make the shadow the subject.

And, if you don't like that reasoning, why didn't it fly? It didn't have to walk across that bridge and fall when the stone broke. You could say it didn't have room, but what are the chances of that in the huge hall they were in?

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Old 08-18-2005, 03:40 PM   #7
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Oh, come on! That's the most retarded bit of logic I've heard on the subject. Horses are animals and they're different from birds, that are also animals, and although two horses are never going to look exactly alike, no horse will ever have wings (like a bird). Of course those three wizards looked different than eachother!
excuse me, but as a retard, I must object to your use of the word "retarded" in this context.
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