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View Poll Results: The 'real meaning' of the Lord of the Rings is to be found in: | |||
The Author's intent |
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2 | 7.14% |
The Reader's individual opinion |
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6 | 21.43% |
Mainstream Reader consensus |
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0 | 0% |
The BarrowDowns Book Forum consensus |
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2 | 7.14% |
A Glimpse of Divine Truth |
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1 | 3.57% |
The Reader's collaboration with both the Author's intent and the opinions of others |
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4 | 14.29% |
Divine Truth glimpsed by the individual Reader guided by the Author's intent |
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3 | 10.71% |
It does not have to have a 'meaning' at all, the books are entertaining, and that's sufficient |
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5 | 17.86% |
All of the above may be true up to an extent |
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5 | 17.86% |
Current poll does not cover all possible options at all, we need another, refined one [if you choose this answer, please list other possible options in the thread. Thank you] |
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0 | 0% |
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Join Date: May 2005
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Okay, ready to try this out...
First and foremost, I feel that a story's meaning comes from the author's intent. As I'm pretty sure I've seen stated in other threads, the author ultimately has ownership of any story as its creator. Expanding on Wilwarin's example, with an author kind enough to provide commentary: Quote:
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![]() Furthermore, I think that any story derives extra personal meaning from how we react to it. It may not be the real meaning if there are statements from the author that contradict it, but it is a meaning, nevertheless that has value to the individual reader. In the case of the LOTR, I think that we have additional permission to look for our own meanings in the story due to the author's dislike of allegory and preference for applicability. By bringing the word applicability into play, I think we're invited to look for how the story relates to our experiences and into collaboration with the author. But there are limits within the rules of Middle Earth. A theoretical reader can't choose to interpret Sauron as Tolkien's great hero because of sympathizing with his lust for power and plans for complete world domination. That flies in the face of the author's intentions. But it is entirely legitimate to debate whether or not Sauron had a chance at redemption. So I suppose my position boils down to giving the author the last word, especially when there's a clearly stated intention, but also giving the reader space to interpret and react to the story. I hope it's not too contradictory. ![]() EDIT: I almost voted for "all of the above" but I don't think I can give the reader the last word for the real meaning of a story. If the question were simply meaning, then I would have chosen that option. Any reaction can be meaning if significant to the reader, but I'm not sure that I can give all of them equal weight (as in the bizarre examples above).
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