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Mithalwen · 08-21-2005, 01:35 PM

I know some of the theory but it is the leap into practice that is hard ... and alas real life has left me out of practice (and sudoku is comptetition).... so thought I know about butter and spanner and flowers..... and various other bits of the arcane art.. I am not sure that being on the right track will help .... yet I will give it another go....

Edit - best guess is a star. Since Squatter has suggested that it is not particularly linked to a race of ME and they are part of our world (IE close to home). What we know as planets Tolkien described as Stars so I wondered if it was the elvish name for Pluto since that is missing from Holst's Planet Suit (unsuitable) ... inconveniently I think it is an orchestral work though Jupiter is used a setting for "I vow to thee my country". I think Jupiter is identified with Carnil. So that is as good as I get so far since the elves only named planets as far out as Neptune anyway..... but I don't think I am right..

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 08-21-2005, 04:13 PM

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Since Squatter has suggested that it is not particularly linked to a race of ME and they are part of our world (IE close to home).

I think you may have misunderstood. I said

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This one has no more to do with Dwarves than with any other race.

By that I mean that it isn't more relevant to any one race than the others. You're right in saying that the Planets suite isn't a choral piece, and Elvish cosmology isn't going to furnish the answer: I don't think it would be that accurate to refer to the planets as 'jewellery'. I can see where you're going with 'worldly', and you're in the right forest if barking up the wrong tree. You were closer to working out the reasoning last time: remember that something can be the solution for part of the clue without being the overall answer.

Morsul the Dark · 09-01-2005, 09:36 AM

10 day rule

Ok,

The Coyote's Bane of the giants

Turambar · 09-09-2005, 12:57 PM

Well I would like to know what the answer to Squatter's clue is.

Celebrian · 09-09-2005, 01:51 PM

How about the Nauglamir?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-11-2005, 07:48 AM

If Nauglamír is an answer to my clue, I should point out that we're on a new one now. To satisfy your curiosity, though, I'll tell you that it isn't the solution.

Since I mean to recycle 'worldly jewellery' until someone solves it, I can't give Turambar the answer either. Looks as though you'll have to exercise your wits, old boy.

Coyote's banes? Giants? Sounds to me like a reference to The Hobbit. Presumably the coyote here is the Road Runner's arch enemy, who was regularly crushed by falling stones. I seem to recall that it's rocks that the stone-giants hurl at one another. Could that be the answer?

Turambar · 09-12-2005, 07:07 AM

Or football, since Thorin suggests that the stone-giants were playing football with the rocks?

Or simply, stone-giants ?

08-21-2005, 01:35 PM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I know some of the theory but it is the leap into practice that is hard ... and alas real life has left me out of practice (and sudoku is comptetition).... so thought I know about butter and spanner and flowers..... and various other bits of the arcane art.. I am not sure that being on the right track will help .... yet I will give it another go.... Edit - best guess is a star. Since Squatter has suggested that it is not particularly linked to a race of ME and they are part of our world (IE close to home). What we know as planets Tolkien described as Stars so I wondered if it was the elvish name for Pluto since that is missing from Holst's Planet Suit (unsuitable) ... inconveniently I think it is an orchestral work though Jupiter is used a setting for "I vow to thee my country". I think Jupiter is identified with Carnil. So that is as good as I get so far since the elves only named planets as far out as Neptune anyway..... but I don't think I am right.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 08-21-2005 at 01:53 PM.

09-01-2005, 09:36 AM	#3
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	10 day rule, 10 day rule Ok, The Coyote's Bane of the giants __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-09-2005, 12:57 PM	#4
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Well I would like to know what the answer to Squatter's clue is. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

09-09-2005, 01:51 PM	#5
Celebrian Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: First Homely House, Rivendell, Eriador Posts: 93	following a red herring How about the Nauglamir? __________________ "cen thec mid cræfte ond thyssum cnyhtum wes/ lara lithe." "Show yourself strong, and be kind to the kids." ~ WealhÞeow, Beowulf (1219-20)

09-11-2005, 07:48 AM	#6
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	New clue in effect If Nauglamír is an answer to my clue, I should point out that we're on a new one now. To satisfy your curiosity, though, I'll tell you that it isn't the solution. Since I mean to recycle 'worldly jewellery' until someone solves it, I can't give Turambar the answer either. Looks as though you'll have to exercise your wits, old boy. Coyote's banes? Giants? Sounds to me like a reference to The Hobbit. Presumably the coyote here is the Road Runner's arch enemy, who was regularly crushed by falling stones. I seem to recall that it's rocks that the stone-giants hurl at one another. Could that be the answer? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

09-12-2005, 07:07 AM	#7
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Or football, since Thorin suggests that the stone-giants were playing football with the rocks? Or simply, stone-giants ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly. Last edited by Turambar; 09-12-2005 at 12:06 PM.

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