Werewolf IX: the Saga Owns You and You Know It

[WaynetheGoblin]

I do know now that my post was very stupid. I will not post one sentence post. Please do not leanch me. Its my first time i want to last awhile.

[wilwarin538]

Well three of the people I mentioned before(Alcrillo, Holbytlass, Zali) have all posted again, and told some of their opinions, so my suspicion of them has lestened.

Wayne, my dear brother, has posted again but still little was said. All I can say is I know how much he wants to play so I'm willing to give him another chance to say his oppinion and defend himself. But if he can not clear himself I fear I will have to vote for him.

Also I think what phantom has said makes a lot of sence.

[Alcarillo]

Well, the first day is mostly shots-in-the-dark. If nobody does anything suspicious I too might vote for Wayne. There is little cause to suspect him aside from the teeth comment, but of all of us who have posted he has said the least. His posts say, basically:

1. My teeth are different.

2. Please don't lynch me!

Everybody else who has posted has made some sort of contribution to the discussion and has made his or her position clear. But I shall not vote yet. Even if he is lynched and he is neither a wolf nor a bear, we don't need to worry about such uninformative posting again. True, it is always unfortunate to lynch an innocent, but he seems least valuble to the village right now.

[Meneltarmacil]

As far as the phantom's plan is concerned, I don't really see him as a furry beast because of it. He may very well be the Cobbler, or merely an innocent villager suggesting an unusual course of action. However, I notice that SamwiseGamgee was the first to accuse him of being the Bear, perhaps he is hiding something.

As for the accusations that I might be hiding a rather hairy secret of my own, Shelob, the accusations by The Saucepan Man, mormegil, and Alcarillo seem to be because of my occupation as Zookeeper and not because of anything I've said here.

[Alcarillo]

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

As far as the phantom's plan is concerned, I don't really see him as a furry beast because of it. He may very well be the Cobbler, or merely an innocent villager suggesting an unusual course of action. However, I notice that SamwiseGamgee was the first to accuse him of being the Bear, perhaps he is hiding something.

As for the accusations that I might be hiding a rather hairy secret of my own, Shelob, the accusations by The Saucepan Man, mormegil, and Alcarillo seem to be because of my occupation as Zookeeper and not because of anything I've said here.

True, true. More jest than accusation, they seemed to be to me. It was an in-character stab-in-the-dark. I had no intention of actually voting for you, of course. Of those I have accused, only Wayne is based off of some sort of evidence in his posts. The rest were basically random, based on occupations. Disregard them.

But that is an interesting point about SamwiseGamgee. It's not quite enough to get me suspicious, but he does show up on my radar now.

[Glirdan]

My dear Wayne, if you don't want to get lynched on the first day, please, for your sake, make up a deffence! Otherwise, I will have no choice but to vote for you seeing as there really is no one else I suspect of any "furry" activity. And as I said before, the only suspicion of the phantom I have is that he is the cobbler. Other that that there really isn't anyone else.

[Kitanna]

I would personally like to see something from Gil. He has been very quiet and the one post he had was rather pointless.

[Holbytlass]

I see a wagon of band coming through....

I see nothing wolfish of Wayne's teeth statement, for heaven's sake he's a dentist! And as for his lack of defence, well, I for one chalk it up to newness.
It seems to me that there are some who feel that The Phantom is the cobbler. So why are there villagers quick to say they are going to vote Wayne, a possible werecreature/anti-villager than The Phantom, a probable anti-villager at the very least?
Now I know this is going to land me in a muck pile, but I put this out there to make people think.

[Glirdan]

I see what you mean Holbytlass, it just seemes to me, as I'm sure it did to Wilwa and Alcarillo, that he sounded rather wolfish. But now you have me torn in mind for whom I will be voting for. I don't know whether I should vote for the phantom or Wayne. If Wayne is a wolf, he poses the greater threat than the Cobbler. I mean, what can the Cobbler do? He doesn't know who the werewolves are or who the werebear is, therefor, when he votes, he could be putting out one of those he would like to win. I'm still leaning towards voting for Wayne, but the phantom is now a possibility.

[Meneltarmacil]

I don't really think lynching Wayne would really do a whole lot for us. I mean, yes it would get rid of his unhelpful posting, but I do not believe it will really help us track down the werebeasts. As for the phantom, it's kind of hard to tell exactly what he is from what he said. He is probably not a wolf unless he's double-bluffing, which I agree he is clever enough to do. He may be the Bear, using his post to try and convince us he's innocent, but I personally don't think there's enough evidence to say anything at this time.

Kath, both you and Shelob seem to want me to explain myself. May I ask why you suspect me?

[Kath]

My reasons for this vote have been explained earlier and as I have not been able to get online since my last post they have not changed. Therefore my vote goes to ;

++MENELTARMACIL

[Meneltarmacil]

I really am not all that convinced of anything about Glirdan at this point. He may be a werebeast, he may not. As far as whether or not he was guilty of Shirriff impersonation, I don't know, though his repetition of "I feel like I've known mormegil for a long time" does appear a little suspicious. Holbytlass falls into the same category in my book. Might be a Beast, might just be innocent. I'd like to hear more about why she feels Glirdan is innocent, however.

I am most suspicious of Shelob and Kath at this point, though. I'll probably vote for one of them by the end of the Day.

[Cailín]

It's getting late and I will not have another opportunity to cast my vote today...

I'll be going with my first instincts this game and vote:

++GLIRDAN

Because of reasons stated before: suspicious behavior, voting for two known innocents. I hope the votes spread out a little and the outcome of this lynching will not doom our village. I still have hope for us.

[The Saucepan Man]

Thoughts duly gathered. Here they are, in case anyone finds them useful:

Folwren:
Unduly anxious about looking suspicious for having voted for Alcarillo, when she had not really been accused. Overly defensive?
Didn’t vote on Day 1 (which I still regard as supicious).
Voted for Alcarillo on Day 2 to put him ahead of Azaelia. But is now strongly accusing Azaelia.

Shelob:
Voted for the phantom on Day 1. But there was no particular reason to think him innocent then.
Her vote for Meneltarmacil on Day 2 could have been part of an effort by the Wolves to spread their votes around.
Has appeared to be helpful and contributing without really putting forward any strong views on whom she suspects.

Holbytlass:
Seems “too innocent”, if you know what I mean. Looks like she’s trying to appear innocent and helpful, but without giving too much away.
A possible pairing with Kath, given the timing of her vote for Bergil on Day 1.
Her rather baseless supicion of (and vote for) wilwarin on Day 2 is supicious, but she has since changed her position on wilwarin.
On Day 2, she could have been trying to “hide” by voting for someone unlikely to be lynched.
To my mind, Holby plays her cards very close to her chest. She only identifies one main suspect each day and sticks to that. But that could be seen as a good thing.

Meneltarmacil:
Despite my vote for him yester-Day, I really don’t think him to be a Wolf. His vote for Azaelia on Day 2 rather than Alcarillo persuades me otherwise.
Almost certainly not a Wolf if Azaelia is.

WaynetheGoblin
Difficult to say as he doesn’t really say much.
The only thing which I find at all suspicious is his failure to vote on Day 2.
I’ll keep him in the “don’t know” category.

Wilwarin538:
I am not so sure that her vote “to save two innocents” on Day 1 clears her, as she voted for another innocent, namely Bergil.
Her vote for Azaelia on Day 2 clears her if Azaelia is a Wolf.
Not much else to go on, but I tend to think her innocent.

Durelin:
Despite her accusation of me, it appears that she is trying to be helpful.
But her votes for unlikely lynching candidates (me on Day 1 and Folwren on Day 2) could be attempts to avoid suspicion.
Another don’t know, although I have my eye on her as a possible Bear since she has been successfully doing very little to garner suspicion.

The Saucepan Man:
I am innocent and I believe that the phantom’s comments speak in my favour.
I am glad that some of you here at least are prepared to give me the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

Kath:
Difficult one this. I did suspect her originally for her lack of analysis but she has been much more forthcoming recently.
She has stuck doggedly to her conviction of Menel’s guilt and has named very few other suspects, similar to Holby.
As noted above, she could be a pairing with Holby, given that Holby’s vote for Bergil on Day 1 took some of the pressure of her.
I just have a bad feeling about Kath, although it may be nothing.

Azaelia of Willowbottom:
Her last minute vote for Bergil was very strange. She claims to have panicked. If she is telling the truth, it seems to me much more likely that a Wolf would have panicked than an innocent because Wolves have more reason to consider the implications of their vote. An ordinary villager, if unsure of whom to vote for, would have just voted for someone who was unlikely to be lynched. If she is not telling the truth then she is not to be trusted.
She was the first to suggest that Alcarillo was responsible for TGWBS’s death (executing a frame-up plan?) and led the calls for Alcarillo’s lynching.
She hardly ever accuses anyone except the person she votes for.
She has voted for two known innocents.
She seems to have been the phantom’s only real suspect. Was he getting too close for comfort?

Cailín:
Another “don’t know”.
Her vote for Alcarillo is not overly suspicious as she was only the second person to vote for him.
She seems to be trying to help the village’s cause, and I have no particular reason to suspect her.
Which of course makes me slightly suspicious.

Nilpaurion Felagund
I think it’s pretty clear now that he is the second shirriff.

Gil-Galad:
He has said very little of consequence, although I’m sure that he knows that this is bound to attract suspicion.
He seemed very proud of himself for voting for Kitanna, and eager to make sure everyone knew about it. He had no reason to know, when he voted, that she was the Cobbler, so perhaps he was using this to try to establish a false innocence.
Definitely suspicious.

Glirdan:
Flip-flopper and seemingly over-eager to please. I originally put this down to naïve excitement, but now I’m not so sure.
He has voted for two known innocents, and with quite suspicious timing too.
Could be paired with Kath for the timing of his vote for Bergil on Day 1, or with either Azaelia or Menel (but not both) for the timing of his vote for Alcarillo on Day 2.
Over the top grieving for our fallen villagers, but this could just be “in character” interplay.

So, in summary:

Top suspects: Azaelia and Glirdan. Azaelia edges it on the evidence and because I still have this nagging feeling that Glirdan is simply guileless.
Secondary suspects: Holbytlass, Folwren, Kath, Gil-Galad and Shelob.
Don’t knows: Cailín, Durelin and WaynetheGoblin.
Probably not Wolves: Meneltarmacil and wilwarin.
Definitely innocent: Nilpaurion and The Saucepan Man.

[The Saucepan Man]

Glirdan has three votes already and Azaelia has none!

We need to try to keep these Wolves on their toes.

So, without further ado (and for the reasons previously stated):

++AZAELIA OF WILLOWBOTTOM

[Shelob]

Carrying on with my suspicion from yesterday I think I'm going to vote

++MENELTARMACIL

again.

[Kath]

There is just one thing that I would like to mention right now and that is this belief that having people who are loud in the village is so exceedingly important that we must not kill anyone who is able to make a sensible and seemingly helpful post of over three paragraphs. Now yes, it is important that we have people who can do this but what we have to beware of is that these people could be werewolves, the cobbler or the werebear. I am not saying lynch all the loud people, I just want everyone to realise that this is possible and that they should not be exempt from suspicion, and that 'I'm loud' is not a valid defence.

There seem to be two people now that everyone is suspicious of;
WaynetheGoblin
Meneltarmacil

I personally don't believe that Wayne is suspicious, just a little inexperienced and I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Menel I accused to begin with and I'll not let that go yet, I want to see some more posts first.

I also accused SamwiseGamgee, and may I say sir what a marvellous reply!

Kath accuseth me of foul, wolf shaped treachery! Oh, the outrage!

Seems a rather over the top response to a random accusation! And you'll let it go will you? How magnanimous of you. I certainly think I'll be watching you.