The Warg and Warg Rider Appreciation Thread

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

But such a magnificent captain and fearsome warrior is worthy of recognition, even if he did use his powers for evil. What do the True Wargs think of this?

Who can say? Wargs are such mysterious creatures that I felt called upon to put forth another, quite plausible, suggestion concerning this matter, but I am as ignorant of the fantastic goings-on of a Warg's mind as any of us...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

(Many thanks to Ms. Bêthberry for the suggestion.)

We could rewrite parts of the legendarium to tell the true tale, including references to Wargs, and possibly the mysterious Hares.

Or . . . maybe we should drop the Hare part, as this is a thread about Wargs.

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Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

We could rewrite parts of the legendarium to tell the true tale, including references to Wargs, and possibly the mysterious Hares.

Or . . . maybe we should drop the Hare part, as this is a thread about Wargs.

Hares?

Surely thou jest, Milord Felagund! What part in such a great tale have creatures such as hares? For all that Rivendell may have been overrun with madly named, long eared beasts of the hare-y persuasion, their part in the destruction of the One Ring and the overthrow of Sauron can surely merit no more a mention in the Red Book, corrected or otherwise, than that of the fox in "Three is Company". Less mention, perhaps, for the fox is a discerning creature curious about the goings on of the world around him, whereas Elmerf and all of his ilk are completely wrapped up in their own, ridiculous, politics and intrigues.

Wargs, on the other hand, although maligned and mistreated by historians, played great parts in the War, as befits the noblest of Eru's creatures. Those some turned traitor it can never be said that their part in the goings on of those times were anything but grand and far-reaching. The hares, by dint of their entire species, could no more have changed the course of the war by hopping in unison against the armies of Mordor- and it is demonstable that they did not- whereas a single Warg, even one turned to evil (if Gothmog be one), by the very reason of his presence on the battlefield, merited a mention in the great history, even though that history be written by those of most anti-Warg persuasions.

Even those who hate the Wargs, who hide their true history, who present the vile Lyenas as true Wargs, who have done their best to either erase the Warg from history or to malign their acts, will admit that a Warg is, if naught else, a great and dangerous creature. But even the most devoted of hare-fans, even the most maniacally deranged of the chroniclers of Elmerf, even the most Bambi-loving nature hugger cannot say any more about Elmerf's role in the War of the Ring than that he was Legolas' rabbit.

I rest my case. There is no need for a society devoted to the Wargs to even contemplate a look into the "histories" that are the self-centred journals of Elmerf and his sorry ilk.

~Wargfully yours,

Warg Scholar - Michael A. Joosten~

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Hey, don't get worked up, Form! You just came back! (Welcome back, vy ze vay. )

It was just a suggestion, for, despite the truth of your statement, Hares had a part in the History of Middle-earth. The Council of Elrond, for example, was brought about by some concubine of Elmerf.

I mean, if we drop the Hare references to the Legendarium, then we are no worse than those who continuously defame the Wargs.

Your Harey Advocate of the Correct and Complete History of Arda,
Louis Ortal.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Hey, don't get worked up, Form! You just came back! (Welcome back, vy ze vay. )

It was just a suggestion, for, despite the truth of your statement, Hares had a part in the History of Middle-earth. The Council of Elrond, for example, was brought about by some concubine of Elmerf.

I mean, if we drop the Hare references to the Legendarium, then we are no worse than those who continuously defame the Wargs.

Your Harey Advocate of the Correct and Complete History of Arda,
Louis Ortal.

Thank you for the welcome, it is good to be back among those enlightened enough to speak of Wargs.

But I must disagree with your interpretation that Elmerf's concubine convened the Council of Elrond. That is simply one interpretation of the facts, and a tenuous one, at that. One might as well accept the suggestion of the Red Book's author, that it practically happened by coincidence. Or one could look at the event and see in it, perhaps, the paws of a Warg.

Although Elrond is renowned for his anti-Warg stance, and although there are no documents proving any Warg connections to the Council named after him, the fact remains that the Council was a most blessed occurrence for the peoples of Middle-Earth, and a turning point in the quest to destroy the Ring. And although the gathering of all those delegates at one time appears to be mere coincidence, one can perhaps see the paw of a Warg at work.

Consider Boromir and Faramir's vision. It is never shown from whence it came. But who, other than the Wargs, had the power to project such a vision? Only the Valar, and they had a strict hands-off policy with regards to Middle-Earth. What about the arrival of the Dwarves? We are told of some vague worries of the Dwarf kingdom, but why should they go to Elrond with their questions? Perhaps the Dwarves, who have always had better relationships with Wargs than the Elves have, had the suggestion placed in their ear? As for Legolas and the other Elves? Well, who do you think could have managed to get them all to Rivendell at the same time, other than those most cunning of beasts?

In any event, although I share your quest for a "Correct and Complete History of Arda", though I dispute with you on some of the details, I must admit that a truly "complete" work is impossible, although we may strive for "correct". To be complete, a work must, of its nature, include EVERYTHING. And no one written work, or even many, can encompass EVERYTHING. For that reason, we are not given Frodo's Famous Mushroom Soup recipe in the Red Book, delicious though it was, it was not relevant. In the same way, while Elmerf and his brood were certainly connected to the Council and its proceedings, they were not RELEVANT. In this matter, at least, I agree with the biased, anti-Warg author of the Red Book: there was no reason to include the hares.

~Warg Scholar-

Michael A. Joosten~

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

My comrades! it is high time for another tale of Wargs; and verily, I now have a series to share with you.

Some of you may remember an earlier tale I told in which the so-called Warg Riders of the Third Age featured; causing bloodshed and unhappiness to the Free Peoples; and enslaving Wargs.

It is time that you found out what became of Grifdokh, Marshmak, Bellizor, Maldakar, Uchnogh and Sarcroch: the infamous 'Warg Riders'. There are some grisly ends in this collection.

Look for me – soon!

[The Perky Ent]

You have my word, Wraith! Wether by my life or death, I shall follow you to the ends of the earth. You have my warg!