What are your most hated parts about the L.O.T.R movies? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Dimcollowen · 09-06-2005, 09:24 PM

Hi there!

Alright, overall Jacksons movies were awesome!! But the scenes I didn't like were the ones w/ Aragorn and Arwen....mayb thats because i am jealous....

yeah that must be it!

Essex · 09-07-2005, 10:29 AM

the 'messanger' that was the mouth of Sauron was not there to Parley as he did in the books.

Therefore he was not under any protection via the 'rules of war'

The MoS was goading and and putting doubt into the Forces of the West's hearts. He was not offering any terms of surrender to the troops.

Therefore aragorn did the quick thing (and yes not very moral but it was war) and stopped the MoS in his tracks by killing him. Henry Vth supposedly did pretty much the same thing when he got his troops to kill his prisoners as he could not afford to keep them imprisoned and fight the battle of Agincourt at the same time. Not nice, but then, hey, it's War. nasty things happen unfortunately. People die.....

PS It is Bashing. Just look at the title of this thread 'What are your most hated parts about the LOTR movies?' And that's what I've done above in my first post above. I bashed the one part of the movies I thought was really dire.

The Only Real Estel · 09-07-2005, 10:47 AM

Posted by Essex:

Quote:

It is Bashing. Just look at the title of this thread 'What are your most hated parts about the LOTR movies?'

I wouldn't have used 'hated' in the title, but that's up to the thread starter. Still, that doesn't mean that we are all relating scenes that we 'hated', just because he used that word. I said myself that 'hate' would be too strong of a word.

A good example of bashing would be listing off things you didn't like about the movies & then continuing on to say that PJ must have a brain the size of a pea & shouldn't be allowed to ever make another movie. As far as I know, that's not what we are doing.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-07-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

A good example of bashing would be listing off things you didn't like about the movies & then continuing on to say that PJ must have a brain the size of a pea & shouldn't be allowed to ever make another movie.

Technically, that would be Jackson-bashing. Essex is correct that listing things that you hate or dislike about the films is film-bashing. Perfectly permissible but, hey, it's so last year.

The Only Real Estel · 09-07-2005, 11:25 AM

Good point, SpM, especially about it getting a bit old.

But I still think that there is a happy medium-you can discuss your dislikes without going overboard [bashing].

alatar · 09-07-2005, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

A good example of bashing would be listing off things you didn't like about the movies & then continuing on to say that PJ must have a brain the size of a pea & shouldn't be allowed to ever make another movie. As far as I know, that's not what we are doing.

Was that me?

I love utilizing the 'list' feature as it gives a different look to the post.

Anyway, I never would comment on PJ's brain size or ability. Hey look, he's a film producer, got the rights and the backing to make three good films, was able to sell the completely contrary idea of 'three at once' to an industry that is terrified to take risks, was more than vindicated/honored both by sales and awards...and I...well...post about him. Hope never to be so arrogant as to slam the guy personally.

Well, at least not anymore - can't remember what I may have previously posted

.

As SpM rightly states, this is becoming ancient history, but I still can't help posting on this theme - though more for fun than for therapy.

The Only Real Estel · 09-07-2005, 11:56 AM

I wasn't referring to you alatar. I remember reading a post by some trollish newb that said stuff along those lines but that must've been a year ago at least.

So you're safe.

alatar · 09-07-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Only Real Estel

So you're safe.

Didn't think so, but you never know...especially as I've posted pretty negatively in regards to PJ's depiction of the Gandalf-WK encounter (which is why I joined the forum in the first place). That scene really torqued me off, and I felt that I had been betrayed. The night that I first viewed ROTK:EE, I got my torch and pitchfork and set off for New Zealand

. Stopped at the 'Downs along the way and, after a few (hundred?) bellowing and whining posts, put down my riot paraphenalia and got over it, thanks to some sense sent by some fellow wraiths.

Tuor in Gondolin · 09-08-2005, 10:26 AM

Yess. This is easy, precious. It's Gandalf beating up the
Steward of Gondor while his elite guards are
apparently comotose. The istari were expressly
forbidden to try to force/coerce/dominate the free
races of Middle-earth. We hates it, we hates it forever!

P.S. I consdier FOTR by far the best of PJ's three movies.

P.P.S. And how come Pippin and Merry shrank back to
normal hobbit size in ROTK.

P.P.P.S. Real posting total for myself is over 1,000. Had to
change and start over in losing my old computer and
going to Yahoo.

09-07-2005, 11:56 AM	#7
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	For the record... I wasn't referring to you alatar. I remember reading a post by some trollish newb that said stuff along those lines but that must've been a year ago at least. So you're safe.

09-08-2005, 10:26 AM	#9
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Yess. This is easy, precious. It's Gandalf beating up the Steward of Gondor while his elite guards are apparently comotose. The istari were expressly forbidden to try to force/coerce/dominate the free races of Middle-earth. We hates it, we hates it forever! P.S. I consdier FOTR by far the best of PJ's three movies. P.P.S. And how come Pippin and Merry shrank back to normal hobbit size in ROTK. P.P.P.S. Real posting total for myself is over 1,000. Had to change and start over in losing my old computer and going to Yahoo. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

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09-06-2005, 09:24 PM	#1
Dimcollowen Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 23	Hi there! Alright, overall Jacksons movies were awesome!! But the scenes I didn't like were the ones w/ Aragorn and Arwen....mayb thats because i am jealous.... yeah that must be it!

09-07-2005, 10:29 AM	#2
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	the 'messanger' that was the mouth of Sauron was not there to Parley as he did in the books. Therefore he was not under any protection via the 'rules of war' The MoS was goading and and putting doubt into the Forces of the West's hearts. He was not offering any terms of surrender to the troops. Therefore aragorn did the quick thing (and yes not very moral but it was war) and stopped the MoS in his tracks by killing him. Henry Vth supposedly did pretty much the same thing when he got his troops to kill his prisoners as he could not afford to keep them imprisoned and fight the battle of Agincourt at the same time. Not nice, but then, hey, it's War. nasty things happen unfortunately. People die..... PS It is Bashing. Just look at the title of this thread 'What are your most hated parts about the LOTR movies?' And that's what I've done above in my first post above. I bashed the one part of the movies I thought was really dire.

09-07-2005, 11:25 AM	#5
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	Good point, SpM, especially about it getting a bit old. But I still think that there is a happy medium-you can discuss your dislikes without going overboard [bashing].