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Eomer of the Rohirrim · 09-09-2005, 11:37 AM

wat is ur problem with his death it was sooo cool LOLOL

But seriously, we spoke about his death before and it went on for quite a while. We probably shouldn't start again here.

To be closed, I imagine.

The Only Real Estel · 09-09-2005, 11:41 AM

Exactly. There must be another good two, three threads with a lot of posts on them, though I haven't the time to find them & link to them right now.

Or maybe I'm just lazy.

Essex · 09-09-2005, 12:18 PM

of course there are more threads - i'm arguing on two of them at the moment about the same thing.

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But the reason why the good guys are the good guys is that they are a rung above the bad guys on the "Edicate Ladder." In the books they had no real way of knowing for sure that it was a trap so they couldn't have used your reasoning there. In the movie, we presume that the future King of Gondor will have enough self control to endure a few taunts and not react like the stereotypical bad guy would.

to answer your first point. "goodies and baddies" is not black and white in Arda. If there's one thing I've learnt from the books, there is no overall 'good' (or bad for that matter). Take the elves and the kinslaying for example.

your second point. in the movie I put it to you that Aragorn did not kill the MoS because of his taunts, but because the people of the West were losing Hope. the MoS was defeating them with his words. He had to be stopped. It's as simple as that. In the book Aragorn helped to do this with a look, but that just wouldn't work in this film, so he lopped his head off.

Bandobras Took · 09-10-2005, 05:08 AM

Also you could try scape goat (but he is not on very often) he is very very good.

The Perky Ent · 09-18-2005, 11:02 AM

Here's something I just noticed: In the movie, the Mouth of Sauron says

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Originally Posted by Mouth of Sauron

And who is this? Isildur's heir? It takes more than a king with a broken elvish blade to- *die*

...broken elvish blade? But...didn't Telchar, the DWARF smith make Narsil? Hmm....I guess it's just another one to be added to the infinite pile of errors in the movie!

Happy Hunting!

Lord Melkor · 09-20-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Perky Ent

Here's something I just noticed: In the movie, the Mouth of Sauron says

...broken elvish blade? But...didn't Telchar, the DWARF smith make Narsil? Hmm....I guess it's just another one to be added to the infinite pile of errors in the movie!

Happy Hunting!

Of course that could be explained by saying that the Mouth of Sauron did not know who made the blade, only that it was used by the elves. As such it is not unreasonable for him to assume that the blade was crafted by the Noldor.

The Perky Ent · 09-20-2005, 06:39 PM

I guess that's him. All mouth and no brain. I'd prefer meeting the Ear of Sauron. He wouldn't mouth off at me, and he'd just listen to my demands. And when he's done listening, I can have the satisfaction of hearing Legolas say :" Look! The messenger only has ears! ". You'd think I'd react with a

, but when you've know him as long as I have, it's more of an

09-09-2005, 11:37 AM	#1
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	wat is ur problem with his death it was sooo cool LOLOL But seriously, we spoke about his death before and it went on for quite a while. We probably shouldn't start again here. To be closed, I imagine. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

09-20-2005, 06:39 PM	#7
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Silly Legolas! Logic is for Men I guess that's him. All mouth and no brain. I'd prefer meeting the Ear of Sauron. He wouldn't mouth off at me, and he'd just listen to my demands. And when he's done listening, I can have the satisfaction of hearing Legolas say :" Look! The messenger only has ears! ". You'd think I'd react with a , but when you've know him as long as I have, it's more of an __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

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09-09-2005, 11:41 AM	#2
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	Exactly. There must be another good two, three threads with a lot of posts on them, though I haven't the time to find them & link to them right now. Or maybe I'm just lazy.

09-10-2005, 05:08 AM	#4
Bandobras Took Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Green Dragon Inn Posts: 22	Also you could try scape goat (but he is not on very often) he is very very good.